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ruba dub dub, accounting in a tub mrs. eliza humperdink 01-21-2008
Posted by mrs. eliza humperdink on January 30, 2008, 3:05 am
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> That's not the accountant's call. That was management's call.
> M A N A G E M E N T is responsible for the financial reports.
> M A N A G E M E N T determines what their accounting policy will be.

So we are in agreement! Accountants are drones that carry out
management's orders.
Accountants are the tools of management to serve the interest of
owners and shareholders.
Accountants carry out managements order even if they hurt workers and
the little guy.
Accountants are foot soilders in green eyeshade who do as they're
told.

Posted by Paul Thomas, CPA on January 22, 2008, 7:56 am
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> this brings me to my other question. why does every accountant deny
> he is a bookkeeper? embarassed about his job?




I ~do~ bookkeeping, for sure. But there are so many other aspects of what I
do for my clients, businesses, non-profits, trusts, estates and individuals,
that the word "bookkeeping" doesn't quite cover the scope of services that
are expected, demanded and provided.


I'm a resource that is necessary for my clients to be successful.




--
"For those who believe, no explanation is necessary. For
those who do not, none will suffice." - Joseph Dunniger

Paul A. Thomas, CPA
Athens, Georgia







Posted by mrs. eliza humperdink on January 23, 2008, 1:42 am
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wrote:
>
> I ~do~ bookkeeping, for sure. But there are so many other aspects of what I
> do for my clients, businesses, non-profits, trusts, estates and individuals,
> that the word "bookkeeping" doesn't quite cover the scope of services that
> are expected, demanded and provided.

there's one service you definitely don't provide: bringing home the
bacon. Accountants talk all they want, but they mainly shuffle paper
and figures around. If they actually had personality and talent,
they'd be in the outside generating business, making things, creating
wealth for society.

Posted by Paul Thomas, CPA on January 23, 2008, 9:06 am
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> there's one service you definitely don't provide: bringing home the
> bacon.


Actually I do.





> Accountants talk all they want, but they mainly
> shuffle paper and figures around.


If you want to look at it that way. That's all everyone does - right.



> If they actually had personality and talent,
> they'd be in the outside generating business,


"in the outside"?

Is that what you hired them to do? Do you want the Controller at the
hospital operating on you? Do you want the theology professor at the
university handling the admissions papers and collecting the tuition? Do
you want the cellist at the opera handling the business end of the theater,
or have them "in the outside" selling tickets?

The question is, do you want all your employees out selling? If so, then
fire everyone else - and I mean everyone else - then send the remainder of
the workers "in the outside" to generate business. The thing is, you need
to have a functioning office, which includes recordkeeping, accounting,
payroll, sales tax, and financial reporting of one form or another. You
probably don't want to bring in the "oil change guy" to keep the books.





> creating wealth for society.


And without the accounting, how will you know that wealth was created? ....
and how will you know that ~~that~~ wealth was created and passed on to the
owners of the business? Will you have the tools necessary to know what you
could do to be more profitable, to create more wealth for the owners.....how
will you know without accounting for your business transactions?





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If electricity comes from electrons, does morality come from morons?
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Paul A. Thomas, CPA
Athens, Georgia











Posted by mrs. eliza humperdink on January 24, 2008, 12:58 am
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> And without the accounting, how will you know that wealth was created? ....
> and how will you know that ~~that~~ wealth was created and passed on to the
> owners of the business? Will you have the tools necessary to know what you
> could do to be more profitable, to create more wealth for the owners.....how
> will you know without accounting for your business transactions?

gee whiz, are you saying that google or microsoft would not know they
were making lots of money until some accountants told them that?

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