HQ Client Schedule

Posted by Terrible Tom on September 12, 2006, 8:37 pm

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I've got to come up with a schedule for four stores. My initial plan was to
have each store connect hourly, each at a different quarter hour. Today we
had a customer stop at store 3 and buy some stuff then promptly drive to
store 2 and buy more stuff. When the folks at store 2 searched for an
existing customer account, of course they didn't find one.

I'd like to have the stores connect three times per hour - every twenty
minutes, with 5 minutes for each store. :00, :20, :40 - :05, :25, :45 and so
on.

Tom

Posted by Jeff on September 12, 2006, 11:46 pm

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TT,

Huh, you can't tell the machine it can only talk to the HQ Server for 5 =
minutes, it talks until its finished.

As I remember, you've got enough HQ Server iron to have every store =
connect every minute, at the same time, if you want. =20

Think of the process, if it checks every minute and it takes 2 minutes =
to up/download, it will check a minute after it finished the previous =
up/download... ;-)

If the next store takes 7 minutes, it will do it again in another =
minute.

Don't know how much is transferred per session in your case, you'll have =
to watch the HQ Client log. 5 minutes transfers _a lot_ of data back =
and forth.

--=20
*
Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security

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follow
the link below to setup Outlook Express. Click on "Open with =
newsreader"
under the MS Retail Management System on the right.

http://tinyurl.com/75bgz

**********

I've got to come up with a schedule for four stores. My initial plan =
was to=20
have each store connect hourly, each at a different quarter hour. =
Today we=20
had a customer stop at store 3 and buy some stuff then promptly drive =
to=20
store 2 and buy more stuff. When the folks at store 2 searched for an =

existing customer account, of course they didn't find one.

I'd like to have the stores connect three times per hour - every =
twenty=20
minutes, with 5 minutes for each store. :00, :20, :40 - :05, :25, :45 =
and so=20
on.

Tom
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<DIV><FONT color=3D#008000>TT,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=3D#008000>Huh, you can't tell the machine it can only =
talk to the=20
HQ Server for 5 minutes, it talks until its finished.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#008000></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#008000>As I remember, you've got enough HQ Server =
iron to have=20
every store connect every minute, at the same time, if =
you=20
want.  </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#008000></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#008000>Think of the process, if it checks every =
minute and it=20
takes 2 minutes to up/download, it will check a minute after it finished =
the=20
previous up/download... ;-)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#008000></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#008000>If the next store takes 7 minutes, it will do =
it again=20
in another minute.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#008000></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#008000>Don't know how much is transferred per =
session in your=20
case, you'll have to watch the HQ Client log.  5 minutes =
transfers _a=20
lot_ of data back and forth.</FONT></DIV>
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=
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wrote in message <A=20
=
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got to come up with a schedule for four stores.  My initial plan =
was to=20
<BR>have each store connect hourly, each at a different quarter =
hour. =20
Today we <BR>had a customer stop at store 3 and buy some stuff then =
promptly=20
drive to <BR>store 2 and buy more stuff.  When the folks at store =
2=20
searched for an <BR>existing customer account, of course they didn't =
find=20
one.<BR><BR>I'd like to have the stores connect three times per hour - =
every=20
twenty <BR>minutes, with 5 minutes for each store.  :00, :20, :40 =
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:25, :45 and so <BR>on.<BR><BR>Tom</BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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Posted by Terrible Tom on September 13, 2006, 1:29 pm

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I don't want to specify the duration of the Store/HQ session.

I was under the impression that multiple simultaneous connections were not
good. I figured that 5 minutes was plenty of time to have the first session
complete before the second session began.

If multiple simultaneous connections aren't taboo, then you are correct. I
will start having everyone connect much more often.

Thanks for the advice,
Tom

"Jeff" wrote:

> TT,

> Huh, you can't tell the machine it can only talk to the HQ Server for 5

minutes, it talks until its finished.

> As I remember, you've got enough HQ Server iron to have every store connect

every minute, at the same time, if you want.

> Think of the process, if it checks every minute and it takes 2 minutes to

up/download, it will check a minute after it finished the previous
up/download... ;-)

> If the next store takes 7 minutes, it will do it again in another minute.

> Don't know how much is transferred per session in your case, you'll have to

watch the HQ Client log. 5 minutes transfers _a lot_ of data back and forth.

> --

> *

> Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security

> You must be using Outlook Express or some other type of newsgroup reader to

> see and download the file attachment. If you are not using a reader, follow

> the link below to setup Outlook Express. Click on "Open with newsreader"

> under the MS Retail Management System on the right.

> http://tinyurl.com/75bgz

> **********

> I've got to come up with a schedule for four stores. My initial plan was to

> have each store connect hourly, each at a different quarter hour. Today we

> had a customer stop at store 3 and buy some stuff then promptly drive to

> store 2 and buy more stuff. When the folks at store 2 searched for an

> existing customer account, of course they didn't find one.

> I'd like to have the stores connect three times per hour - every twenty

> minutes, with 5 minutes for each store. :00, :20, :40 - :05, :25, :45 and

> on

Posted by Jeff on September 13, 2006, 1:57 pm

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TT,

If you can avoid it fine, otherwise you need bigger iron and/or pipes =
for more stores. With your 4 stores and a dedicated server, no problem. =
;-)

Remember that when you are connecting every 5 minutes, say, there is =
less to transfer per connection.

Didn't you get the Optimizing Performance in HQ from MS that I was =
sending to people a while ago? In that, they were testing _40 stores_ =
connecting at the same time with 1.2. Course it work crash HQ Server =
after about 2 days. They never did test it on 1.3 the same scenario. =
They chickened out and only did 50 stores on a staggered schedule. I did =
_not_ crash after 8 days. They only used a 3 GHz Xeon and 1 gig of RAM. =
If you did get it already, its described in the last 5 pages or so.

Of course we recommend re-starting each machine every day anyway.

--=20
*
Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security

You must be using Outlook Express or some other type of newsgroup reader =
to
see and download the file attachment. If you are not using a reader, =
follow
the link below to setup Outlook Express. Click on "Open with =
newsreader"
under the MS Retail Management System on the right.

http://tinyurl.com/75bgz

**********

I don't want to specify the duration of the Store/HQ session.

I was under the impression that multiple simultaneous connections were =
not=20
good. I figured that 5 minutes was plenty of time to have the first =
session=20
complete before the second session began.

If multiple simultaneous connections aren't taboo, then you are =
correct. I=20
will start having everyone connect much more often.

Thanks for the advice,
Tom

"Jeff" wrote:

> TT,
>=20
> Huh, you can't tell the machine it can only talk to the HQ Server =
for 5 minutes, it talks until its finished.
>=20
> As I remember, you've got enough HQ Server iron to have every store =
connect every minute, at the same time, if you want. =20
>=20
> Think of the process, if it checks every minute and it takes 2 =
minutes to up/download, it will check a minute after it finished the =
previous up/download... ;-)
>=20
> If the next store takes 7 minutes, it will do it again in another =
minute.
>=20
> Don't know how much is transferred per session in your case, you'll =
have to watch the HQ Client log. 5 minutes transfers _a lot_ of data =
back and forth.
>=20
> --=20
> *
> Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
>=20
> You must be using Outlook Express or some other type of newsgroup =
reader to
> see and download the file attachment. If you are not using a =
reader, follow
> the link below to setup Outlook Express. Click on "Open with =
newsreader"
> under the MS Retail Management System on the right.
>=20
> http://tinyurl.com/75bgz
>=20
> **********
>=20
> I've got to come up with a schedule for four stores. My initial =
plan was to=20
> have each store connect hourly, each at a different quarter hour. =
Today we=20
> had a customer stop at store 3 and buy some stuff then promptly =
drive to=20
> store 2 and buy more stuff. When the folks at store 2 searched =
for an=20
> existing customer account, of course they didn't find one.
>=20
> I'd like to have the stores connect three times per hour - every =
twenty=20
> minutes, with 5 minutes for each store. :00, :20, :40 - :05, :25, =
:45 and so=20
> on
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<DIV><FONT color=3D#008000>TT,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#008000></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#008000>If you can avoid it fine, otherwise you need =
bigger=20
iron and/or pipes for more stores.  With your 4 stores and a =
dedicated=20
server, no problem. ;-)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#008000></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#008000>Remember that when you are connecting every 5 =
minutes,=20
say, there is less to transfer per connection.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#008000></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#008000>Didn't you get the Optimizing Performance in =
HQ from MS=20
that I was sending to people a while ago?  In that, they were =
testing _40=20
stores_ connecting at the same time with 1.2.  Course it work crash =
HQ=20
Server after about 2 days.  They never did test it on 1.3 the same=20
scenario.  They chickened out and only did 50 stores on a staggered =

schedule. I did _not_ crash after 8 days. They only used a 3 GHz Xeon =
and 1 gig=20
of RAM.  If you did get it already, its described in the last 5 =
pages or=20
so.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#008000></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#008000>Of course we recommend re-starting each =
machine every=20
day anyway.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR>-- <BR>*<BR>Get Secure! - <A=20
href=3D"http://www.microsoft.com/security">www.microsoft.com/security</A>=
</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>You must be using Outlook Express or some other type of newsgroup =
reader=20
to<BR>see and download the file attachment.  If you are not using a =
reader,=20
follow<BR>the link below to setup Outlook Express.  Click on "Open =
with=20
newsreader"<BR>under the MS Retail Management System on the right.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><A =
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<DIV> </DIV>
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<DIV>"Terrible Tom" <<A=20
=
om</A>>=20
wrote in message <A=20
=
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don't want to specify the duration of the Store/HQ session.<BR><BR>I =
was under=20
the impression that multiple simultaneous connections were not =
<BR>good. =20
I figured that 5 minutes was plenty of time to have the first session=20
<BR>complete before the second session began.<BR><BR>If multiple =
simultaneous=20
connections aren't taboo, then you are correct.  I <BR>will start =
having=20
everyone connect much more often.<BR><BR>Thanks for the=20
advice,<BR>Tom<BR><BR><BR><BR>"Jeff" wrote:<BR><BR>> TT,<BR>> =
<BR>>=20
Huh, you can't tell the machine it can only talk to the HQ Server for =
5=20
minutes, it talks until its finished.<BR>> <BR>> As I remember, =
you've=20
got enough HQ Server iron to have every store connect every minute, at =
the=20
same time, if you want.  <BR>> <BR>> Think of the process, =
if it=20
checks every minute and it takes 2 minutes to up/download, it will =
check a=20
minute after it finished the previous up/download... ;-)<BR>> =
<BR>> If=20
the next store takes 7 minutes, it will do it again in another =
minute.<BR>>=20
<BR>> Don't know how much is transferred per session in your case, =
you'll=20
have to watch the HQ Client log.  5 minutes transfers _a lot_ of =
data=20
back and forth.<BR>> <BR>> -- <BR>> *<BR>> Get Secure! - =
<A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.microsoft.com/security">www.microsoft.com/security</A>=
<BR>>=20
<BR>> You must be using Outlook Express or some other type of =
newsgroup=20
reader to<BR>> see and download the file attachment.  If you =
are not=20
using a reader, follow<BR>> the link below to setup Outlook =
Express. =20
Click on "Open with newsreader"<BR>> under the MS Retail Management =
System=20
on the right.<BR>> <BR>> <A=20
href=3D"http://tinyurl.com/75bgz">http://tinyurl.com/75bgz</A><BR>> =
<BR>>=20
**********<BR>> <BR>>   "Terrible Tom" <<A=20
=
om</A>>=20
wrote in message <A=20
=
BF25A-B4DA-4B7E-B33F-A3EBE1A49C7A@microsoft.com</A>...<BR>> &nbsp=
;=20
I've got to come up with a schedule for four stores.  My initial =
plan was=20
to <BR>>   have each store connect hourly, each at a =
different=20
quarter hour.  Today we <BR>>   had a customer stop =
at store=20
3 and buy some stuff then promptly drive to <BR>>   store =
2 and=20
buy more stuff.  When the folks at store 2 searched for an=20
<BR>>   existing customer account, of course they didn't =
find=20
one.<BR>> <BR>>   I'd like to have the stores connect =
three=20
times per hour - every twenty <BR>>   minutes, with 5 =
minutes for=20
each store.  :00, :20, :40 - :05, :25, :45 and so =
<BR>>  =20
on</BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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Posted by Terrible Tom on September 14, 2006, 12:00 pm

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I must have missed that one. I did take a nearly two-week vacation at the
beginning of August. The message is no longer on my news server, so if you
could re-post or e-mail it to me, I'd appreciate it.

I changed my schedule so that the four stores connect every 3,4,5,6 minutes
respectively. This will result in a fair number of multiple simultaneous
connections, but since my hardware is almost exactly as you describe the MS
test h/w, I doubt I'll have any trouble.

Thanks for the reassuring advice,
Tom

"Jeff" wrote:

> TT,

> If you can avoid it fine, otherwise you need bigger iron and/or pipes for more

stores. With your 4 stores and a dedicated server, no problem. ;-)

> Remember that when you are connecting every 5 minutes, say, there is less to

transfer per connection.

> Didn't you get the Optimizing Performance in HQ from MS that I was sending to

people a while ago? In that, they were testing _40 stores_ connecting at the
same time with 1.2. Course it work crash HQ Server after about 2 days. They
never did test it on 1.3 the same scenario. They chickened out and only did 50
stores on a staggered schedule. I did _not_ crash after 8 days. They only used a
3 GHz Xeon and 1 gig of RAM. If you did get it already, its described in the
last 5 pages or so.

> Of course we recommend re-starting each machine every day anyway.

> --

> *

> Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security

> You must be using Outlook Express or some other type of newsgroup reader to

> see and download the file attachment. If you are not using a reader, follow

> the link below to setup Outlook Express. Click on "Open with newsreader"

> under the MS Retail Management System on the right.

> http://tinyurl.com/75bgz

> **********

> I don't want to specify the duration of the Store/HQ session.

> I was under the impression that multiple simultaneous connections were not

> good. I figured that 5 minutes was plenty of time to have the first session

> complete before the second session began.

> If multiple simultaneous connections aren't taboo, then you are correct. I

> will start having everyone connect much more often.

> Thanks for the advice,

> Tom

> "Jeff" wrote:

> > TT,

> >

> > Huh, you can't tell the machine it can only talk to the HQ Server for 5

minutes, it talks until its finished.

> >

> > As I remember, you've got enough HQ Server iron to have every store

connect every minute, at the same time, if you want.

> >

> > Think of the process, if it checks every minute and it takes 2 minutes to

up/download, it will check a minute after it finished the previous
up/download... ;-)

> >

> > If the next store takes 7 minutes, it will do it again in another minute.

> >

> > Don't know how much is transferred per session in your case, you'll have

to watch the HQ Client log. 5 minutes transfers _a lot_ of data back and forth.

> >

> > --

> > *

> > Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security

> >

> > You must be using Outlook Express or some other type of newsgroup reader to

> > see and download the file attachment. If you are not using a reader,

follow

> > the link below to setup Outlook Express. Click on "Open with newsreader"

> > under the MS Retail Management System on the right.

> >

> > http://tinyurl.com/75bgz

> >

> > **********

> >

> > I've got to come up with a schedule for four stores. My initial plan

was to

> > have each store connect hourly, each at a different quarter hour. Today

> > had a customer stop at store 3 and buy some stuff then promptly drive to

> > store 2 and buy more stuff. When the folks at store 2 searched for an

> > existing customer account, of course they didn't find one.

> >

> > I'd like to have the stores connect three times per hour - every twenty

> > minutes, with 5 minutes for each store. :00, :20, :40 - :05, :25, :45

and so

> > on