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Store Operations 2.0 Licensing Andy Miller - T 02-14-2007
Posted by Andy Miller - T on February 14, 2007, 7:10 pm
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I'm curious to how the licensing is going to be handled with Store Operations
2.0. I know it will be getting rid of the dongle and start using license
keys. So how will this work? Let's pretend we have a 4 user license key:
here are some questions I have...

1) If we have 4 point of sale screens open, are we still able to open the
manager screens on other computers? Can we use the SO Manager on as many
computers as we wish, just as we have done in the past?

2) With previous versions of RMS, we are able to open 4 point of sale
screens on 4 different computers. If we want to open the POS screen on
computer #5, we just needed to exit out of the POS screen from computer #2.
We are able to open 4 POS screens on any 4 computers of our choice. Is this
the same with Version 2.0? or do we have to specify the 4 POS computers, and
thats just the way it is. POS wont be able to open on any other computers?

3) How does the Evaluation mode work? Is it the same? In previous versions,
I could be connected to a LIVE database that has a dongle attached to it. If
i wanted to provide support or testing, I could switch to a SAMPLE database
that would run in an evaluation mode. Is this still possible?

4) Is there any documentation that I can refer to about the Store Operations
2.0 Licensing and how it works?

Posted by Steve @ CTS Ret on February 15, 2007, 10:28 am
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andy - in relation to your questions;

1 - yes - this element of the licensing works in exactly the same way; it is
only the POS application that requires a license key.

2 - no - the license key is per device and is therefore fixed to the first
4 devices you enter the key into.

3 - once you have licensed the application on the device, it can access as
many databases as required (albeit one at a time).

4 - there isnt much documentation flying around at the moment - just keep
peppering these forums with questions and I'm sure other resellers (such as
ourselves) will respond to your query.




"Andy Miller - Teknor, Inc." wrote:

> I'm curious to how the licensing is going to be handled with Store Operations
> 2.0. I know it will be getting rid of the dongle and start using license
> keys. So how will this work? Let's pretend we have a 4 user license key:
> here are some questions I have...
>
> 1) If we have 4 point of sale screens open, are we still able to open the
> manager screens on other computers? Can we use the SO Manager on as many
> computers as we wish, just as we have done in the past?
>
> 2) With previous versions of RMS, we are able to open 4 point of sale
> screens on 4 different computers. If we want to open the POS screen on
> computer #5, we just needed to exit out of the POS screen from computer #2.
> We are able to open 4 POS screens on any 4 computers of our choice. Is this
> the same with Version 2.0? or do we have to specify the 4 POS computers, and
> thats just the way it is. POS wont be able to open on any other computers?
>
> 3) How does the Evaluation mode work? Is it the same? In previous versions,
> I could be connected to a LIVE database that has a dongle attached to it. If
> i wanted to provide support or testing, I could switch to a SAMPLE database
> that would run in an evaluation mode. Is this still possible?
>
> 4) Is there any documentation that I can refer to about the Store Operations
> 2.0 Licensing and how it works?

Posted by John M. on February 15, 2007, 11:59 am
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This licensing setup seems to be taking a "huge step" backwards.

Let's take the very simple scenario of a single user license for POS and you
have 3 systems with RMS completely installed on it - 1 being the DB server,
1- primarily a back office/manager system, and 1 POS station. You have a
failure at the POS station during the day and want to bring POS up on the
back office system while you fix the POS station.

With today's dongle setup - no problems. With license keys - it appears you
are "dead in the water" unless you want to pay for a 2nd license key that
you really hope to never use - and OBTW, also pay support charges for 2 POS
stations each year.

--

John M.
>
> andy - in relation to your questions;
>
> 1 - yes - this element of the licensing works in exactly the same way; it
> is
> only the POS application that requires a license key.
>
> 2 - no - the license key is per device and is therefore fixed to the
> first
> 4 devices you enter the key into.
>
> 3 - once you have licensed the application on the device, it can access as
> many databases as required (albeit one at a time).
>
> 4 - there isnt much documentation flying around at the moment - just keep
> peppering these forums with questions and I'm sure other resellers (such
> as
> ourselves) will respond to your query.
>
>
>
>
> "Andy Miller - Teknor, Inc." wrote:
>
>> I'm curious to how the licensing is going to be handled with Store
>> Operations
>> 2.0. I know it will be getting rid of the dongle and start using license
>> keys. So how will this work? Let's pretend we have a 4 user license
>> key:
>> here are some questions I have...
>>
>> 1) If we have 4 point of sale screens open, are we still able to open the
>> manager screens on other computers? Can we use the SO Manager on as many
>> computers as we wish, just as we have done in the past?
>>
>> 2) With previous versions of RMS, we are able to open 4 point of sale
>> screens on 4 different computers. If we want to open the POS screen on
>> computer #5, we just needed to exit out of the POS screen from computer
>> #2.
>> We are able to open 4 POS screens on any 4 computers of our choice. Is
>> this
>> the same with Version 2.0? or do we have to specify the 4 POS computers,
>> and
>> thats just the way it is. POS wont be able to open on any other
>> computers?
>>
>> 3) How does the Evaluation mode work? Is it the same? In previous
>> versions,
>> I could be connected to a LIVE database that has a dongle attached to it.
>> If
>> i wanted to provide support or testing, I could switch to a SAMPLE
>> database
>> that would run in an evaluation mode. Is this still possible?
>>
>> 4) Is there any documentation that I can refer to about the Store
>> Operations
>> 2.0 Licensing and how it works?



Posted by Terrible Tom on February 15, 2007, 1:20 pm
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I guess that it's only a step 'backwards' if you're an end user. For MS,
it's a huge leap *forwards*.

Always look on the bright side...
Tom
--
Stop fishing for e-mail


"John M." wrote:

> This licensing setup seems to be taking a "huge step" backwards.
>
> Let's take the very simple scenario of a single user license for POS and you
> have 3 systems with RMS completely installed on it - 1 being the DB server,
> 1- primarily a back office/manager system, and 1 POS station. You have a
> failure at the POS station during the day and want to bring POS up on the
> back office system while you fix the POS station.
>
> With today's dongle setup - no problems. With license keys - it appears you
> are "dead in the water" unless you want to pay for a 2nd license key that
> you really hope to never use - and OBTW, also pay support charges for 2 POS
> stations each year.
>
> --
>
> John M.
> >
> > andy - in relation to your questions;
> >
> > 1 - yes - this element of the licensing works in exactly the same way; it
> > is
> > only the POS application that requires a license key.
> >
> > 2 - no - the license key is per device and is therefore fixed to the
> > first
> > 4 devices you enter the key into.
> >
> > 3 - once you have licensed the application on the device, it can access as
> > many databases as required (albeit one at a time).
> >
> > 4 - there isnt much documentation flying around at the moment - just keep
> > peppering these forums with questions and I'm sure other resellers (such
> > as
> > ourselves) will respond to your query.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Andy Miller - Teknor, Inc." wrote:
> >
> >> I'm curious to how the licensing is going to be handled with Store
> >> Operations
> >> 2.0. I know it will be getting rid of the dongle and start using license
> >> keys. So how will this work? Let's pretend we have a 4 user license
> >> key:
> >> here are some questions I have...
> >>
> >> 1) If we have 4 point of sale screens open, are we still able to open the
> >> manager screens on other computers? Can we use the SO Manager on as many
> >> computers as we wish, just as we have done in the past?
> >>
> >> 2) With previous versions of RMS, we are able to open 4 point of sale
> >> screens on 4 different computers. If we want to open the POS screen on
> >> computer #5, we just needed to exit out of the POS screen from computer
> >> #2.
> >> We are able to open 4 POS screens on any 4 computers of our choice. Is
> >> this
> >> the same with Version 2.0? or do we have to specify the 4 POS computers,
> >> and
> >> thats just the way it is. POS wont be able to open on any other
> >> computers?
> >>
> >> 3) How does the Evaluation mode work? Is it the same? In previous
> >> versions,
> >> I could be connected to a LIVE database that has a dongle attached to it.
> >> If
> >> i wanted to provide support or testing, I could switch to a SAMPLE
> >> database
> >> that would run in an evaluation mode. Is this still possible?
> >>
> >> 4) Is there any documentation that I can refer to about the Store
> >> Operations
> >> 2.0 Licensing and how it works?
>
>
>

Posted by Jason on February 15, 2007, 1:32 pm
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I totally agree. I have about 10 stations that I use to access three
licenses. This allows multiple people at thier desktop to be a POS while
having only as many licenses as you need to run concurrently.

A huge step backward is absolutely tright, and I am glad this came up,
because now I have a major reason I CANNOT "upgrade" to 2.0.

Boneheaded...


> This licensing setup seems to be taking a "huge step" backwards.
>
> Let's take the very simple scenario of a single user license for POS and
> you have 3 systems with RMS completely installed on it - 1 being the DB
> server, 1- primarily a back office/manager system, and 1 POS station. You
> have a failure at the POS station during the day and want to bring POS up
> on the back office system while you fix the POS station.
>
> With today's dongle setup - no problems. With license keys - it appears
> you are "dead in the water" unless you want to pay for a 2nd license key
> that you really hope to never use - and OBTW, also pay support charges for
> 2 POS stations each year.
>
> --
>
> John M.
>>
>> andy - in relation to your questions;
>>
>> 1 - yes - this element of the licensing works in exactly the same way; it
>> is
>> only the POS application that requires a license key.
>>
>> 2 - no - the license key is per device and is therefore fixed to the
>> first
>> 4 devices you enter the key into.
>>
>> 3 - once you have licensed the application on the device, it can access
>> as
>> many databases as required (albeit one at a time).
>>
>> 4 - there isnt much documentation flying around at the moment - just keep
>> peppering these forums with questions and I'm sure other resellers (such
>> as
>> ourselves) will respond to your query.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Andy Miller - Teknor, Inc." wrote:
>>
>>> I'm curious to how the licensing is going to be handled with Store
>>> Operations
>>> 2.0. I know it will be getting rid of the dongle and start using
>>> license
>>> keys. So how will this work? Let's pretend we have a 4 user license
>>> key:
>>> here are some questions I have...
>>>
>>> 1) If we have 4 point of sale screens open, are we still able to open
>>> the
>>> manager screens on other computers? Can we use the SO Manager on as
>>> many
>>> computers as we wish, just as we have done in the past?
>>>
>>> 2) With previous versions of RMS, we are able to open 4 point of sale
>>> screens on 4 different computers. If we want to open the POS screen on
>>> computer #5, we just needed to exit out of the POS screen from computer
>>> #2.
>>> We are able to open 4 POS screens on any 4 computers of our choice. Is
>>> this
>>> the same with Version 2.0? or do we have to specify the 4 POS computers,
>>> and
>>> thats just the way it is. POS wont be able to open on any other
>>> computers?
>>>
>>> 3) How does the Evaluation mode work? Is it the same? In previous
>>> versions,
>>> I could be connected to a LIVE database that has a dongle attached to
>>> it. If
>>> i wanted to provide support or testing, I could switch to a SAMPLE
>>> database
>>> that would run in an evaluation mode. Is this still possible?
>>>
>>> 4) Is there any documentation that I can refer to about the Store
>>> Operations
>>> 2.0 Licensing and how it works?
>
>



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