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System locks up overnight - related to pole display?? PRJ 09-05-2006
Posted by PRJ on September 5, 2006, 1:57 pm
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This may well be too system specific a question, but I'm hoping not.

Almost every morning I have to re-boot our POS terminal because it has
frozen. Almost always it seems to be related to the pole display connected
to it. What I see on the screen is an error message saying that the "device
is no longer connected". There is also always a "WRITE" task in the task
bar at the bottle (this is Windows XP Pro, BTW). I do a control+alt+delete
and end the WRITE task (I have to end it twice, because the first time I
highlight it always results in it appearing again in the Task Manager.) I've
had this looked at by out RMS tech,but he seems unable to fix it. Any
thoughts????

In case it's relevant:
We run a POS sales lane terminal networked to an office workstation/server.
Because of specific internal issues our Merchant Services function is handled
by means of an application called ICVerify, which sits on the 'server'.
Transactions occur at the POS station and are processed through the server.
If I understand correctly, there is a nightly upload of the transactions to
the Merchant Services provider (FirstData), but I think it is from the
'server' only.
--
WineGuy

Posted by Terrible Tom on September 5, 2006, 2:33 pm
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Have you considered shutting down the terminal when the shop closes? IME,
Windows really likes to be restarted on a pretty regular basis. I know that
this doesn't address the root of your issue, but is would probably solve your
problem.

If shutting down nightly doesn't work for you, look into your power
management settings for both the system in geeneral and the device in
particular - the device may be getting disconnected/turned off by windows in
an attempt to save power.

Tom

"PRJ" wrote:

> This may well be too system specific a question, but I'm hoping not.
>
> Almost every morning I have to re-boot our POS terminal because it has
> frozen. Almost always it seems to be related to the pole display connected
> to it. What I see on the screen is an error message saying that the "device
> is no longer connected". There is also always a "WRITE" task in the task
> bar at the bottle (this is Windows XP Pro, BTW). I do a control+alt+delete
> and end the WRITE task (I have to end it twice, because the first time I
> highlight it always results in it appearing again in the Task Manager.) I've
> had this looked at by out RMS tech,but he seems unable to fix it. Any
> thoughts????
>
> In case it's relevant:
> We run a POS sales lane terminal networked to an office workstation/server.
> Because of specific internal issues our Merchant Services function is handled
> by means of an application called ICVerify, which sits on the 'server'.
> Transactions occur at the POS station and are processed through the server.
> If I understand correctly, there is a nightly upload of the transactions to
> the Merchant Services provider (FirstData), but I think it is from the
> 'server' only.
> --
> WineGuy

Posted by PRJ on September 5, 2006, 5:59 pm
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Good suggestions. I do notice, however, that the ICVerify software (on the
server) does not immediately show each credit card transaction, so I've been
leaving the POS terminal up at closing to be sure the last transactions are
passed through.

You may be right about the power issue. My server has everything on it the
POS terminal has, except for the pole display, Barcode reader and credit card
processing peripherals.... the server never freezes.

How would I re-set the pole display power management.? I know how to do that
for the CPU, but not a perpheral. FYI - this never happens during the
business day, but has happned as little as 3 hours after close of business
(came back to the store late one night).

My RMS tech is suggesting I unplug the pole display at night to see if that
has an effect, and isolates the cause. How we would fix it, if that's it, I
don't know.
--
WineGuy


"Terrible Tom" wrote:

> Have you considered shutting down the terminal when the shop closes? IME,
> Windows really likes to be restarted on a pretty regular basis. I know that
> this doesn't address the root of your issue, but is would probably solve your
> problem.
>
> If shutting down nightly doesn't work for you, look into your power
> management settings for both the system in geeneral and the device in
> particular - the device may be getting disconnected/turned off by windows in
> an attempt to save power.
>
> Tom
>
> "PRJ" wrote:
>
> > This may well be too system specific a question, but I'm hoping not.
> >
> > Almost every morning I have to re-boot our POS terminal because it has
> > frozen. Almost always it seems to be related to the pole display connected
> > to it. What I see on the screen is an error message saying that the "device
> > is no longer connected". There is also always a "WRITE" task in the task
> > bar at the bottle (this is Windows XP Pro, BTW). I do a control+alt+delete
> > and end the WRITE task (I have to end it twice, because the first time I
> > highlight it always results in it appearing again in the Task Manager.)
I've
> > had this looked at by out RMS tech,but he seems unable to fix it. Any
> > thoughts????
> >
> > In case it's relevant:
> > We run a POS sales lane terminal networked to an office workstation/server.
> > Because of specific internal issues our Merchant Services function is
handled
> > by means of an application called ICVerify, which sits on the 'server'.
> > Transactions occur at the POS station and are processed through the server.
> > If I understand correctly, there is a nightly upload of the transactions to
> > the Merchant Services provider (FirstData), but I think it is from the
> > 'server' only.
> > --
> > WineGuy

Posted by Terrible Tom on September 6, 2006, 1:30 pm
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I don't have any pole displays so, the following is pretty general...

Look at the properties for your LAN connection. If you click 'Configure'
then select the 'Power Management' tab, you'll notice a switch for 'Allow the
computer to turn off this device to save power.'

Some printers allow the user to define the sleep settings. I have some that
do and others that don't. Basically, look around the 'advanced settings'
part of the printer driver and hope to find some setting that allows you to
have the printer stay hot all the time or to extend the delay before 'sleep
mode' for as long as possible.

If the pole display has some sort of software component, you may be able to
find a setting that stops the pole display from shutting itself off after
long periods of inactivity. It is also possible that some sort of hardware
configuration (like dipswitches) might be available. You might want to
contact your hardware vendor about it.

Tom

"PRJ" wrote:

> Good suggestions. I do notice, however, that the ICVerify software (on the
> server) does not immediately show each credit card transaction, so I've been
> leaving the POS terminal up at closing to be sure the last transactions are
> passed through.
>
> You may be right about the power issue. My server has everything on it the
> POS terminal has, except for the pole display, Barcode reader and credit card
> processing peripherals.... the server never freezes.
>
> How would I re-set the pole display power management.? I know how to do that
> for the CPU, but not a perpheral. FYI - this never happens during the
> business day, but has happned as little as 3 hours after close of business
> (came back to the store late one night).
>
> My RMS tech is suggesting I unplug the pole display at night to see if that
> has an effect, and isolates the cause. How we would fix it, if that's it, I
> don't know.
> --
> WineGuy
>
>
> "Terrible Tom" wrote:
>
> > Have you considered shutting down the terminal when the shop closes? IME,
> > Windows really likes to be restarted on a pretty regular basis. I know that
> > this doesn't address the root of your issue, but is would probably solve
your
> > problem.
> >
> > If shutting down nightly doesn't work for you, look into your power
> > management settings for both the system in geeneral and the device in
> > particular - the device may be getting disconnected/turned off by windows in
> > an attempt to save power.
> >
> > Tom
> >
> > "PRJ" wrote:
> >
> > > This may well be too system specific a question, but I'm hoping not.
> > >
> > > Almost every morning I have to re-boot our POS terminal because it has
> > > frozen. Almost always it seems to be related to the pole display
connected
> > > to it. What I see on the screen is an error message saying that the
"device
> > > is no longer connected". There is also always a "WRITE" task in the task
> > > bar at the bottle (this is Windows XP Pro, BTW). I do a
control+alt+delete
> > > and end the WRITE task (I have to end it twice, because the first time I
> > > highlight it always results in it appearing again in the Task Manager.)
I've
> > > had this looked at by out RMS tech,but he seems unable to fix it. Any
> > > thoughts????
> > >
> > > In case it's relevant:
> > > We run a POS sales lane terminal networked to an office
workstation/server.
> > > Because of specific internal issues our Merchant Services function is
handled
> > > by means of an application called ICVerify, which sits on the 'server'.
> > > Transactions occur at the POS station and are processed through the
server.
> > > If I understand correctly, there is a nightly upload of the transactions
to
> > > the Merchant Services provider (FirstData), but I think it is from the
> > > 'server' only.
> > > --
> > > WineGuy

Posted by Patrick on September 6, 2006, 2:42 pm
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I had a similar problem that was related to my pole display. I was using the
logic control PD3000 usb model, however my problem was not related to the
power management. Unplugging the unit during the night seems like a terrible
idea. If I disconect my OPOS scanner or Pole Display I get the 'write'
error. My error did not always occur during the night, but sometimes during
the work day. The building's electricity is pretty well maxed out and I
noticed two ways the unit would upset: touching where the AC/DC adapter where
it was connected to the unit (I guess it was not shielded very well), the
other was certain units in the building that were running many devices on the
same breaker had this happen much more often. I wrapped the point where the
ac/dc connector connects to the unit with electrical tape and used electrical
staples to secure this point to the stand so it would not be bumped or
jarred. Secondly I made sure the UPS had the pole, computer, and scanner
plugged into the 'battery backup'. The monitor, printer, and pin pad did not
seem to crash the computer when they lost power so they went into the 'surge
only' outlets in the UPS. We have a generator that fires up as soon as
commerical power is lost, having these devices lose power for a second
doesn't seem to be a problem. Across 19 lanes after making these
modifications I have only 2 instances of the 'write' error this year, which I
mostly attribute to the cashier to bumping or jarring cables while
cleaning/ajusting their workstations.

Hope this Helps
Patrick

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