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Paying 'current liabilities' hatesspam 08-01-2007
Posted by hatesspam on August 1, 2007, 12:57 pm
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Our company is an LLC with 3 members, 20 employees and a 401K plan with
matching contributions.

Our payroll service sends a report with the employee 401K deductions and the
safe harbor match for the employees. I edit the data to add the member
deductions and match and then submit the information to the 401K plan for
deduction from our accounts.

I set up a 'current liabilities' account with two sub-accounts for 'payroll
deductions' and 'company match'. I've tried to enter the data from the
payroll services report as a BILL for the 401K plan, to be paid each time I
upload the contribution data.

Problem is, the Bill shows as a DECREASE in the liabilities account, and
when I Pay the bill, the vendor account is zeroed, but the liabilities
account is unchanged.

I've thought of using journal entries, but I am not sure what the
'balancing' account would be (payroll liabilities?). And, I need to be able
to have the amount show up as an EFT transfer from my checking account.

Surely setting up 401K entries in QuickBooks is a common enough task. I
cannot, however, find any information in the helpfile.

Any advice would be most welcome.



Posted by Allan Martin on August 1, 2007, 4:42 pm
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> Our company is an LLC with 3 members, 20 employees and a 401K plan with
> matching contributions.
>
> Our payroll service sends a report with the employee 401K deductions and
> the safe harbor match for the employees. I edit the data to add the member
> deductions and match and then submit the information to the 401K plan for
> deduction from our accounts.
>
> I set up a 'current liabilities' account with two sub-accounts for
> 'payroll deductions' and 'company match'. I've tried to enter the data
> from the payroll services report as a BILL for the 401K plan, to be paid
> each time I upload the contribution data.
>
> Problem is, the Bill shows as a DECREASE in the liabilities account, and
> when I Pay the bill, the vendor account is zeroed, but the liabilities
> account is unchanged.
>
> I've thought of using journal entries, but I am not sure what the
> 'balancing' account would be (payroll liabilities?). And, I need to be
> able to have the amount show up as an EFT transfer from my checking
> account.
>
> Surely setting up 401K entries in QuickBooks is a common enough task. I
> cannot, however, find any information in the helpfile.
>
> Any advice would be most welcome.


Don't just think about journal enties, learn to live them and love them.



>
>



Posted by hatesspam on August 3, 2007, 9:44 am
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>> Our company is an LLC with 3 members, 20 employees and a 401K plan with
>> matching contributions.
>>
>> Our payroll service sends a report with the employee 401K deductions and
>> the safe harbor match for the employees. I edit the data to add the
>> member deductions and match and then submit the information to the 401K
>> plan for deduction from our accounts.
>>
>> I set up a 'current liabilities' account with two sub-accounts for
>> 'payroll deductions' and 'company match'. I've tried to enter the data
>> from the payroll services report as a BILL for the 401K plan, to be paid
>> each time I upload the contribution data.
>>
>> Problem is, the Bill shows as a DECREASE in the liabilities account, and
>> when I Pay the bill, the vendor account is zeroed, but the liabilities
>> account is unchanged.
>>
>> I've thought of using journal entries, but I am not sure what the
>> 'balancing' account would be (payroll liabilities?). And, I need to be
>> able to have the amount show up as an EFT transfer from my checking
>> account.
>>
>> Surely setting up 401K entries in QuickBooks is a common enough task. I
>> cannot, however, find any information in the helpfile.
>>
>> Any advice would be most welcome.
>
>
> Don't just think about journal enties, learn to live them and love them.
>
>
So, journal entries is the way to go? Can you give me an example?



Posted by Allan Martin on August 3, 2007, 11:13 am
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>>
>>> Our company is an LLC with 3 members, 20 employees and a 401K plan with
>>> matching contributions.
>>>
>>> Our payroll service sends a report with the employee 401K deductions and
>>> the safe harbor match for the employees. I edit the data to add the
>>> member deductions and match and then submit the information to the 401K
>>> plan for deduction from our accounts.
>>>
>>> I set up a 'current liabilities' account with two sub-accounts for
>>> 'payroll deductions' and 'company match'. I've tried to enter the data
>>> from the payroll services report as a BILL for the 401K plan, to be paid
>>> each time I upload the contribution data.
>>>
>>> Problem is, the Bill shows as a DECREASE in the liabilities account, and
>>> when I Pay the bill, the vendor account is zeroed, but the liabilities
>>> account is unchanged.
>>>
>>> I've thought of using journal entries, but I am not sure what the
>>> 'balancing' account would be (payroll liabilities?). And, I need to be
>>> able to have the amount show up as an EFT transfer from my checking
>>> account.
>>>
>>> Surely setting up 401K entries in QuickBooks is a common enough task. I
>>> cannot, however, find any information in the helpfile.
>>>
>>> Any advice would be most welcome.
>>
>>
>> Don't just think about journal enties, learn to live them and love them.
>>
>>
> So, journal entries is the way to go? Can you give me an example?


Call your accountant and ask them how to journalize your payroll from the
reports given to you by your payroll service.








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>



Posted by hatesspam on August 3, 2007, 12:45 pm
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>>>> Surely setting up 401K entries in QuickBooks is a common enough task. I
>>>> cannot, however, find any information in the helpfile.
>>>>
>>>> Any advice would be most welcome.

>>> Don't just think about journal enties, learn to live them and love
>>> them.
>>>
>> So, journal entries is the way to go? Can you give me an example?
>
>
> Call your accountant and ask them how to journalize your payroll from the
> reports given to you by your payroll service.
>

Allan, Allan, Allan

You of all folks should know that there are many ways to skin this cat.
Calling my accountant for what should be a trivial data entry procedure -
while an option - is not the option I want to explore first.

My MO for research (for MOST issues - business, personal, medical, etc. )
is... examine any helpfiles (or, RTFM if you prefer)
Then search the appropriate support site.
Then Google the web.
Then post on appropriate message boards/forums....

If I'm not satisfied after the above steps, then I consider placing a call
to a paid professional. I not only value my $, I also value the time and
expertise of the folks I pay for advice (which, IMO, includes not bothering
them over trivial matters).

Seems you've forgotten recently how to word an appropriate helpful newsgroup
reply. Since you've previously offered sage advice, I am sure you can regain
that (currently) lost ability with a little practice.

Why not look at the responses to my question that were posted on the QB
Community forums for a start?

http://www.quickbooksgroup.com/webx?13@@.efafdb5/2



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