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QB Simple Start able to use QB Premier data files? Isaac Grover 05-16-2008
Posted by Isaac Grover on May 16, 2008, 12:39 am
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Good evening from Wisconsin,

I have a client who currently uses QuickBooks Premier 2008 on one PC
and would like to now use it from four different PCs. The employees
on those PCs have different working hours so the QuickBooks data files
will only be open from one PC at a time.

I have moved the data files from the original PC and installed the
network server portion of QuickBooks Premier 2008 to a server running
Windows Server 2003. The client version of QuickBooks Premier 2008
has been left on the original PC, and accessibility to the data files
on the server have been verified.

The client found a great deal at a local retailer for three copies of
QuickBooks Simple Start 2008 at $9.99ea (a typo in their inventory
database perhaps) and had me install it on the other three PCs. When
I go to access the QuickBooks company file, I receive an error
indicating invalid permissions but as I have verified accessibility
with the existing QuickBooks Premier copy, my suspicion is that data
files created with Premier are not compatible with Simple Start.

However, I cannot find any documentation that would indicate such an
incompatibility. Can I please be pointed to such a reference, if it
exists?

Thank you in advance,
---
Isaac Grover, Owner
Quality Computer Services of River Falls, Wisconsin
Web: http://www.qcs-rf.com

Posted by Haskel LaPort on May 16, 2008, 8:28 am
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> Good evening from Wisconsin,
>
> I have a client who currently uses QuickBooks Premier 2008 on one PC
> and would like to now use it from four different PCs. The employees
> on those PCs have different working hours so the QuickBooks data files
> will only be open from one PC at a time.
>
> I have moved the data files from the original PC and installed the
> network server portion of QuickBooks Premier 2008 to a server running
> Windows Server 2003. The client version of QuickBooks Premier 2008
> has been left on the original PC, and accessibility to the data files
> on the server have been verified.
>
> The client found a great deal at a local retailer for three copies of
> QuickBooks Simple Start 2008 at $9.99ea (a typo in their inventory
> database perhaps) and had me install it on the other three PCs. When
> I go to access the QuickBooks company file, I receive an error
> indicating invalid permissions but as I have verified accessibility
> with the existing QuickBooks Premier copy, my suspicion is that data
> files created with Premier are not compatible with Simple Start.
>
> However, I cannot find any documentation that would indicate such an
> incompatibility. Can I please be pointed to such a reference, if it
> exists?



Wow your client got ripped off. That is a lot of money for Simple Start, I
thought that piece of garbage was free. Any who, there may be a possible
rights issue to the folder where the data file is located.

I believe all versions can access files created in other versions with the
exception of Enterprise. You can certainly test that assumption out by
copying the data file to a local folder on one of the three new workstations
and see if it opens locally.

Its also possible that Simple may not be able to work with a file that is
being hosted by another computer, its an environment that I would never even
bother to try out, Simple is that bad.



>
> Thank you in advance,
> ---
> Isaac Grover, Owner
> Quality Computer Services of River Falls, Wisconsin
> Web: http://www.qcs-rf.com



Posted by Laura on May 16, 2008, 10:07 pm
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>> Good evening from Wisconsin,
>>
>> I have a client who currently uses QuickBooks Premier 2008 on one PC
>> and would like to now use it from four different PCs. The employees
>> on those PCs have different working hours so the QuickBooks data files
>> will only be open from one PC at a time.
>>
>> I have moved the data files from the original PC and installed the
>> network server portion of QuickBooks Premier 2008 to a server running
>> Windows Server 2003. The client version of QuickBooks Premier 2008
>> has been left on the original PC, and accessibility to the data files
>> on the server have been verified.
>>
>> The client found a great deal at a local retailer for three copies of
>> QuickBooks Simple Start 2008 at $9.99ea (a typo in their inventory
>> database perhaps) and had me install it on the other three PCs. When
>> I go to access the QuickBooks company file, I receive an error
>> indicating invalid permissions but as I have verified accessibility
>> with the existing QuickBooks Premier copy, my suspicion is that data
>> files created with Premier are not compatible with Simple Start.
>>
>> However, I cannot find any documentation that would indicate such an
>> incompatibility. Can I please be pointed to such a reference, if it
>> exists?
>
>
>
> Wow your client got ripped off. That is a lot of money for Simple Start, I
> thought that piece of garbage was free. Any who, there may be a possible
> rights issue to the folder where the data file is located.

I agree especially since SS is now free from Intuit. At least Pro Advisors
can get them for free.

> I believe all versions can access files created in other versions with the
> exception of Enterprise. You can certainly test that assumption out by
> copying the data file to a local folder on one of the three new
> workstations and see if it opens locally.

The underlying structure of SS through Premier are all the same. I have been
able to open my company file created by Premier accountant version and
Toggle down to SS. Features that are not available in SS don't exist but
will reappear when you toggle back to Premier.

> Its also possible that Simple may not be able to work with a file that is
> being hosted by another computer, its an environment that I would never
> even bother to try out, Simple is that bad.

This might be the issue. As the name implies SS is the lowest level program.
I doubt it supports networking.

I would try using something like LogMeIn Free or GoToMyPC instead of
accessing the file through the network to see if that works for the remote
employees. Have your users log into the computer that uses Premier to access
the file. There are so many features missing SS that your employees will get
frustrated very quickly especially if they have used Premier.


Posted by Haskel LaPort on May 16, 2008, 11:22 pm
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>>> Good evening from Wisconsin,
>>>
>>> I have a client who currently uses QuickBooks Premier 2008 on one PC
>>> and would like to now use it from four different PCs. The employees
>>> on those PCs have different working hours so the QuickBooks data files
>>> will only be open from one PC at a time.
>>>
>>> I have moved the data files from the original PC and installed the
>>> network server portion of QuickBooks Premier 2008 to a server running
>>> Windows Server 2003. The client version of QuickBooks Premier 2008
>>> has been left on the original PC, and accessibility to the data files
>>> on the server have been verified.
>>>
>>> The client found a great deal at a local retailer for three copies of
>>> QuickBooks Simple Start 2008 at $9.99ea (a typo in their inventory
>>> database perhaps) and had me install it on the other three PCs. When
>>> I go to access the QuickBooks company file, I receive an error
>>> indicating invalid permissions but as I have verified accessibility
>>> with the existing QuickBooks Premier copy, my suspicion is that data
>>> files created with Premier are not compatible with Simple Start.
>>>
>>> However, I cannot find any documentation that would indicate such an
>>> incompatibility. Can I please be pointed to such a reference, if it
>>> exists?
>>
>>
>>
>> Wow your client got ripped off. That is a lot of money for Simple Start,
>> I thought that piece of garbage was free. Any who, there may be a
>> possible rights issue to the folder where the data file is located.
>
> I agree especially since SS is now free from Intuit. At least Pro Advisors
> can get them for free.
>
>> I believe all versions can access files created in other versions with
>> the exception of Enterprise. You can certainly test that assumption out
>> by copying the data file to a local folder on one of the three new
>> workstations and see if it opens locally.
>
> The underlying structure of SS through Premier are all the same. I have
> been able to open my company file created by Premier accountant version
> and Toggle down to SS. Features that are not available in SS don't exist
> but will reappear when you toggle back to Premier.
>
>> Its also possible that Simple may not be able to work with a file that is
>> being hosted by another computer, its an environment that I would never
>> even bother to try out, Simple is that bad.
>
> This might be the issue. As the name implies SS is the lowest level
> program. I doubt it supports networking.
>
> I would try using something like LogMeIn Free or GoToMyPC instead of
> accessing the file through the network to see if that works for the remote
> employees. Have your users log into the computer that uses Premier to
> access the file. There are so many features missing SS that your employees
> will get frustrated very quickly especially if they have used Premier.

Also since only one user will be accessing the file at one time there is no
need to have the file hosted.

The file can physically be located on the server but there is no need for a
database engine running on the server.







>



Posted by Isaac Grover on May 20, 2008, 11:21 pm
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Good evening from Wisconsin,

Thank you all for the insight and experience. My client has decided
to purchase additional copies of QuickBooks Premier 2007 for the
additional users. Also, he wasn't happy when I told him he could
download Simple Start from the web and showed him how to do it.

Thank you again,
---
Isaac Grover, Owner
Quality Computer Services of River Falls, Wisconsin
Web: http://www.qcs-rf.com

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