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Quickbooks 2006 - The junk that QB always was, is alive and well nospam 07-05-2006
Posted by nospam on July 5, 2006, 9:05 pm
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I have to give them some credit in ditching that piece of garbage of a
file structure that they had for 10 years and implementing something
that seems a bit better - on many occasions it causes more problems
though - but if one considers that horror of a db system should never
have been used in the first place there's no credit due.

So I had a chance to work with 2006 a bit.

The glue sniffers were *AGAIN* left on their own to fuck around with
the interface *AGAIN*. Meaning, a couple of people that have been
entering bills for a long time in the companies I work with have to
learn *AGAIN* how to enter bills *AGAIN* because the QB developers are
incompetent (as always) and are oblivious to the fact that one does
not leave the user interface to idiots and ignorants without any
supervision.

The whole QB mess now is buried beneath a mountain of Flash and XML
and tons of useless bloat, and every mouse click is followed by the
hourglass and a mandatory stall until the UI responds again to user
input, all this in 1-1.5 year old systems with plenty of ram and
decent video cards. In addition, any keystrokes entered while the
hourglass is showing are lost because even the keyboard buffer that
Windows has is blocked from working as it should *and as it did
before*.

Those Centers (vendor, customer, employee, etc) are horrid pieces of
junk. They start with a potentially useful layout and they have failed
to complete it so it's at least as useful as the vendor lists, etc,
were before. Most of the views in the centers don't even have workable
date filters!

The Job field on all reports relating to Vendors is still impossible
to choose and to show! All Construction related reports in the
*Construction Edition* that try to show the Job are a mess - they
calculate forever, *then* they show the customize dialog window,
*then* they calculate *again* forever, and any filter used on a job or
a vendor results in a blank report! What the hell?

One half of one point for adding a special account for credit card
reconciliation errors. It took them 10 years to do that. Another half
of one point because the field width in POs and time sheets on the
screen is changeable. Another 10 years to achieve that incredible feat
of programming.

Incompetence is king with Intuit. Usability ranks at absolute zero. I
can only look forward to a few more hours of fighting that junk of a
program to try to get some data out of it in severely inadequate
reports.

It's a freaking database, why the need of 100 MB of gloat that result
in the UI needing to refresh constantly before and after every click
of the mouse?

Idiots.

///

Posted by HeyBub on July 5, 2006, 9:37 pm
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 nospam@invalid.com wrote:
> I have to give them some credit in ditching that piece of garbage of a
> file structure that they had for 10 years and implementing something
> that seems a bit better - on many occasions it causes more problems
> though - but if one considers that horror of a db system should never
> have been used in the first place there's no credit due.
>
> So I had a chance to work with 2006 a bit.

[...]

I'll put you down (temporarily) as "unconvinced."



Posted by nospam on July 6, 2006, 5:38 pm
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>I'll put you down (temporarily) as "unconvinced."

Make it permanently. Whoever idiot decided to do dialog windows in a
bookkeeping program in Java or Flash or whatever stupid garbage they
used, does not even begin to compare with the inept incompetent moron
who gave their permission to do so and gave the OK for this bloat to
go on the market.

What a stupid program. You click on the memo field in a bill to start
typing something (still, no keyboard shortcut to the memo field -
there was one but some glue sniffer took it out) and the cursor goes
into an hour-glass because the dialog window is doing who-knows-what
in the background just by clicking on the memo field.

By the time you see what you typed, the keyboard buffer is dumped, you
see the 5th, 6th letter you typed, and now you have to backspace and
start typing again, and every keystroke results in the same stall of
the UI.

This is not a bookkeeping program any more. The QB developers are
masturbating in their hourly meetings of how to manipulate their
market share and QB 2006 is the result of it.

Morons.

///

Posted by HeyBub on July 6, 2006, 3:42 pm
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nospam@invalid.com wrote:
>
>> I'll put you down (temporarily) as "unconvinced."
>
> Make it permanently. Whoever idiot decided to do dialog windows in a
> bookkeeping program in Java or Flash or whatever stupid garbage they
> used, does not even begin to compare with the inept incompetent moron
> who gave their permission to do so and gave the OK for this bloat to
> go on the market.
>
> What a stupid program. You click on the memo field in a bill to start
> typing something (still, no keyboard shortcut to the memo field -
> there was one but some glue sniffer took it out) and the cursor goes
> into an hour-glass because the dialog window is doing who-knows-what
> in the background just by clicking on the memo field.

Why would anyone WANT a shortcut to the memo field. Most of the time it's
blank. If one can remember (or figure out) that a bill from "Diamond Lil's
House of Pleasure & Pain" is for, a memo sure won't help much. Moreover,
there aren't ANY keyboard shortcuts on the "Bill" screen. Heck, there are
only six or seven fields.

As for untoward hesitation, not on my system. There is no hourglass when
clicking on the memo field; access is instantaneous.

>
> By the time you see what you typed, the keyboard buffer is dumped, you
> see the 5th, 6th letter you typed, and now you have to backspace and
> start typing again, and every keystroke results in the same stall of
> the UI.
>
> This is not a bookkeeping program any more. The QB developers are
> masturbating in their hourly meetings of how to manipulate their
> market share and QB 2006 is the result of it.
>
> Morons.

I don't see ANY of the symptoms of which you complain. Based on your
descriptions (and assuming you're not drunk) I suspect a keystroke logging
program has been installed, possibly by your wife, for reasons one can only
guess. Alternatively, are you running QB on a 12 MHz 386?



Posted by Leo Navoichick on July 6, 2006, 4:54 pm
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> nospam@invalid.com wrote:
>>
>>> I'll put you down (temporarily) as "unconvinced."
>>
>> Make it permanently. Whoever idiot decided to do dialog windows in
>> a
>> bookkeeping program in Java or Flash or whatever stupid garbage
>> they
>> used, does not even begin to compare with the inept incompetent
>> moron
>> who gave their permission to do so and gave the OK for this bloat
>> to
>> go on the market.
>>
>> What a stupid program. You click on the memo field in a bill to
>> start
>> typing something (still, no keyboard shortcut to the memo field -
>> there was one but some glue sniffer took it out) and the cursor
>> goes
>> into an hour-glass because the dialog window is doing
>> who-knows-what
>> in the background just by clicking on the memo field.
>
> Why would anyone WANT a shortcut to the memo field. Most of the time
> it's blank. If one can remember (or figure out) that a bill from
> "Diamond Lil's House of Pleasure & Pain" is for, a memo sure won't
> help much. Moreover, there aren't ANY keyboard shortcuts on the
> "Bill" screen. Heck, there are only six or seven fields.
>
> As for untoward hesitation, not on my system. There is no hourglass
> when clicking on the memo field; access is instantaneous.
>
>>
>> By the time you see what you typed, the keyboard buffer is dumped,
>> you
>> see the 5th, 6th letter you typed, and now you have to backspace
>> and
>> start typing again, and every keystroke results in the same stall
>> of
>> the UI.
>>
>> This is not a bookkeeping program any more. The QB developers are
>> masturbating in their hourly meetings of how to manipulate their
>> market share and QB 2006 is the result of it.
>>
>> Morons.
>
> I don't see ANY of the symptoms of which you complain. Based on your
> descriptions (and assuming you're not drunk) I suspect a keystroke
> logging program has been installed, possibly by your wife, for
> reasons one can only guess. Alternatively, are you running QB on a
> 12 MHz 386?

I don't get the hourglass on clicking into the memo field either.
However, I do as GCG mentioned a few posts up get the keyboard stall
when typing in the item list on PO's. You can not type into that field
quickly at all or it starts skipping/dropping things you have typed. I
am pretty sure it is because the auto-fill feature is turned on, and
it just can't auto-fill as fast as I can type (which isn't all that
fast maybe 40 wpm or so). Pretty annoying, but so far since they put
the space bar selecting items back in, is about my only complaint.

--
Leo



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