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Reallocated payments in QB2005 news.verizon.net 03-04-2007
Posted by news.verizon.net on March 4, 2007, 8:50 am
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We generate reports on Cash basis. Sometimes after entering a payment the
customer's previous payment is reallocated in the reports. This results in
odd amounts looking like they were paid currently. For example, the
customer paid $100 for a service last summer and upon paying for a different
service in January this year an odd portion of the new payment, $14.58, got
allocated to the old service. Our P&L now shows a January payment of $14.58
for something that was entirely paid last year. It balances out so that the
customer is still paid up to date but it is disconcerting to report having
received payment for an old debt that was paid last summer.

This happens regularly but only when we report on a cash basis. Perhaps
related, we also get negative accounts receivable and payable that are not
justified by customer credit balances.

Thanks for any help.

Al Levesque




Posted by Laura on March 4, 2007, 12:15 pm
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> We generate reports on Cash basis. Sometimes after entering a payment the
> customer's previous payment is reallocated in the reports. This results
> in
> odd amounts looking like they were paid currently. For example, the
> customer paid $100 for a service last summer and upon paying for a
> different
> service in January this year an odd portion of the new payment, $14.58,
> got
> allocated to the old service. Our P&L now shows a January payment of
> $14.58
> for something that was entirely paid last year. It balances out so that
> the
> customer is still paid up to date but it is disconcerting to report having
> received payment for an old debt that was paid last summer.
>
> This happens regularly but only when we report on a cash basis. Perhaps
> related, we also get negative accounts receivable and payable that are not
> justified by customer credit balances.
>
> Thanks for any help.

What you are describing does not sound quite right. I would suggest that you
run a transaction report for this customer and verify that the dates of the
invoices and payments are correct. A payment made last summer but showing up
on the January P&L suggests an incorrect date on the payment. Also check for
payments received without being applied to an invoice.

A negative A/R balance usually indicates a credit to the account. This can
be caused by a payment w/o an invoice for example.

I would also verify the date range of the report.


Posted by news.verizon.net on March 4, 2007, 7:23 pm
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>
>> We generate reports on Cash basis. Sometimes after entering a payment
>> the
>> customer's previous payment is reallocated in the reports....

>
> What you are describing does not sound quite right. I would suggest that
> you run a transaction report for this customer and verify that the dates
> of the invoices and payments are correct. A payment made last summer but
> showing up on the January P&L suggests an incorrect date on the payment.
> Also check for payments received without being applied to an invoice...

I checked the dates and they are all correct but the application of payments
may be key. The bill in question was paid by general journal debit for an
expense paid directly by the customer with credit to A/R in his name. I bet
that leaves the application of the payment floating and subject to
reapplication later. I will check back for other instances where payment
was split to see if they all involved general journal credits to A/R.

Thank you.

Al Levesque



Posted by Laura on March 4, 2007, 7:42 pm
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>
>>
>>> We generate reports on Cash basis. Sometimes after entering a payment
>>> the
>>> customer's previous payment is reallocated in the reports....
>
>>
>> What you are describing does not sound quite right. I would suggest that
>> you run a transaction report for this customer and verify that the dates
>> of the invoices and payments are correct. A payment made last summer but
>> showing up on the January P&L suggests an incorrect date on the payment.
>> Also check for payments received without being applied to an invoice...
>
> I checked the dates and they are all correct but the application of
> payments may be key. The bill in question was paid by general journal
> debit for an expense paid directly by the customer with credit to A/R in
> his name. I bet that leaves the application of the payment floating and
> subject to reapplication later. I will check back for other instances
> where payment was split to see if they all involved general journal
> credits to A/R.
>
> Thank you.

What was the date on the Journal entry?

A better way to accomplish this would be to create a clearing account using
a bank type. Code the payment to the customer using the clearing account as
well as the receipt of payment with the clearing account. This eliminates
the need for the journal entry.


Posted by news.verizon.net on March 7, 2007, 8:10 pm
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>
>>
>>>
>>>> We generate reports on Cash basis. Sometimes after entering a payment
>>>> the
>>>> customer's previous payment is reallocated in the reports....
>>
>>>
>>> What you are describing does not sound quite right.....

>> I checked the dates and they are all correct but the application of
>> payments may be key.....


> What was the date on the Journal entry?
>
> A better way to accomplish this would be to create a clearing account
> using a bank type. Code the payment to the customer using the clearing
> account as well as the receipt of payment with the clearing account. This
> eliminates the need for the journal entry.

The initial Journal entry was dated Aug 6, about a week after the invoice
was generated. Another Journal entry was made Aug 29, and the final on Oct
19. On the other hand, a P&L generated today shows a small part of the
payment as of Jan 30th, when the customer paid a bill dated Jan 1st.

We will experiment on the method you showed and hope that does it.

Thanks again,

Al Levesque



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