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Texas stops unemployment collections HeyBub 03-14-2008
Posted by HeyBub on March 14, 2008, 10:57 am
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"When budgets begin to tighten, many state politicians start to talk tax
hikes. So credit Texas Governor Rick Perry for cutting taxes this week as a
way to keep his state as a national leader in job creation. Mr. Perry
suspended the state unemployment insurance 'replenishment' tax for the rest
of the year on grounds that government doesn't need the money but employers
do."

It seems as if there's $1.6 billion socked away in the unemployment
insurance escrow accounts. More than enough, evidently, to pay out
unemployment benefits like forever. Not only that, but the state is rebating
$170 million already collected.

It was either suspend the tax or get a bigger sock.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120545140648235095.html?mod=opinion_main_review_and_outlooks



Posted by N Owen on March 14, 2008, 2:09 pm
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>"When budgets begin to tighten, many state politicians start to talk tax
>hikes. So credit Texas Governor Rick Perry for cutting taxes this week as a
>way to keep his state as a national leader in job creation. Mr. Perry
>suspended the state unemployment insurance 'replenishment' tax for the rest
>of the year on grounds that government doesn't need the money but employers
>do."
>
>It seems as if there's $1.6 billion socked away in the unemployment
>insurance escrow accounts. More than enough, evidently, to pay out
>unemployment benefits like forever. Not only that, but the state is rebating
>$170 million already collected.
>
>It was either suspend the tax or get a bigger sock.
>
>http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120545140648235095.html?mod=opinion_main_review_and_outlooks
>
Your subject is a little misleading - the state of Texas has only stopped
the extra .12% for replenishment.
N Owen


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Posted by HeyBub on March 15, 2008, 11:12 am
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N Owen wrote:
>
>> "When budgets begin to tighten, many state politicians start to talk
>> tax hikes. So credit Texas Governor Rick Perry for cutting taxes
>> this week as a way to keep his state as a national leader in job
>> creation. Mr. Perry suspended the state unemployment insurance
>> 'replenishment' tax for the rest of the year on grounds that
>> government doesn't need the money but employers do."
>>
>> It seems as if there's $1.6 billion socked away in the unemployment
>> insurance escrow accounts. More than enough, evidently, to pay out
>> unemployment benefits like forever. Not only that, but the state is
>> rebating $170 million already collected.
>>
>> It was either suspend the tax or get a bigger sock.
>>
>>
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120545140648235095.html?mod=opinion_main_review_and_outlooks
>>
> Your subject is a little misleading - the state of Texas has only
> stopped the extra .12% for replenishment.

Right. My bad. Still, a couple hundred mil in reduced taxes is more than
chump-change.

And if you own a company in Michigan or California where unemployment taxes
are significant, Texas, and other low-tax states, seem more attractive every
day.



Posted by klunk on March 15, 2008, 2:11 pm
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"HeyBub"
>N Owen wrote:
>>"HeyBub" :
>>
>>> "When budgets begin to tighten, many state politicians start to talk
>>> tax hikes. So credit Texas Governor Rick Perry for cutting taxes
>>> this week as a way to keep his state as a national leader in job
>>> creation. Mr. Perry suspended the state unemployment insurance
>>> 'replenishment' tax for the rest of the year on grounds that
>>> government doesn't need the money but employers do."
>>>
>>> It seems as if there's $1.6 billion socked away in the unemployment
>>> insurance escrow accounts. More than enough, evidently, to pay out
>>> unemployment benefits like forever. Not only that, but the state is
>>> rebating $170 million already collected.
>>>
>>> It was either suspend the tax or get a bigger sock.
>>>
>>>
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120545140648235095.html?mod=opinion_main_review_and_outlooks
>>>
>> Your subject is a little misleading - the state of Texas has only
>> stopped the extra .12% for replenishment.
>
> Right. My bad. Still, a couple hundred mil in reduced taxes is more than
> chump-change.
>
> And if you own a company in Michigan or California where unemployment
> taxes are significant, Texas, and other low-tax states, seem more
> attractive every day.


I see it as a way for a politician to claim they're "cutting" taxes
when doing nothing of the sort. If the UI escrow accounts weren't
at a surplus, this wouldn't be happening.

California annually adjusts the UI rates for employers depending
on the status of the UI fund. No politician can claim they "cut taxes"
when it gets adjusted down. Since UI taxable income is capped at
$7,000, and the average tax-rate is in the 2% range, I hardly call an
annual UI tax of less than $200 per employee significantly higher
than other "low-tax" states.

I'd say there are a few more factors than some tax-beans as to where
a business gets located. Texas is a wonderful place, but I'm not too
worried about companies fleeing California all of a sudden over
Perry's decree. Plus, you know that the replenishment charge will be
tacked right back on when the UI fund gets depleted (which could
happen a lot sooner than one thinks if the economy takes a big
dump).



Posted by HeyBub on March 17, 2008, 3:58 pm
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klunk wrote:
> "HeyBub"
>> N Owen wrote:
>>> "HeyBub" :
>>>
>>>> "When budgets begin to tighten, many state politicians start to
>>>> talk tax hikes. So credit Texas Governor Rick Perry for cutting
>>>> taxes this week as a way to keep his state as a national leader in
>>>> job creation. Mr. Perry suspended the state unemployment insurance
>>>> 'replenishment' tax for the rest of the year on grounds that
>>>> government doesn't need the money but employers do."
>>>>
>>>> It seems as if there's $1.6 billion socked away in the unemployment
>>>> insurance escrow accounts. More than enough, evidently, to pay out
>>>> unemployment benefits like forever. Not only that, but the state is
>>>> rebating $170 million already collected.
>>>>
>>>> It was either suspend the tax or get a bigger sock.
>>>>
>>>>
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120545140648235095.html?mod=opinion_main_review_and_outlooks
>>>>
>>> Your subject is a little misleading - the state of Texas has only
>>> stopped the extra .12% for replenishment.
>>
>> Right. My bad. Still, a couple hundred mil in reduced taxes is more
>> than chump-change.
>>
>> And if you own a company in Michigan or California where unemployment
>> taxes are significant, Texas, and other low-tax states, seem more
>> attractive every day.
>
>
> I see it as a way for a politician to claim they're "cutting" taxes
> when doing nothing of the sort. If the UI escrow accounts weren't
> at a surplus, this wouldn't be happening.

Yeah, I know. Still, as an employer, the prospect of paying nothing in UI
for the balance of the year is nice.


>
> California annually adjusts the UI rates for employers depending
> on the status of the UI fund. No politician can claim they "cut taxes"
> when it gets adjusted down. Since UI taxable income is capped at
> $7,000, and the average tax-rate is in the 2% range, I hardly call an
> annual UI tax of less than $200 per employee significantly higher
> than other "low-tax" states.
>
> I'd say there are a few more factors than some tax-beans as to where
> a business gets located. Texas is a wonderful place, but I'm not too
> worried about companies fleeing California all of a sudden over
> Perry's decree. Plus, you know that the replenishment charge will be
> tacked right back on when the UI fund gets depleted (which could
> happen a lot sooner than one thinks if the economy takes a big
> dump).

I agree. And I don't expect a wholesale exodus from California to Texas or
Florida (although there is significant movement from California to Nevada).
Still, it would by Pollyanish of state functionaries to think that taxes are
not part of the competitive atmosphere in attracting businesses.



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