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Why QuickBooks? walterbyrd 01-27-2008
Posted by HeyBub on January 27, 2008, 5:02 pm
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 walterbyrd wrote:
> According to a USA-Today article, in 2006: "QuickBooks, accounting
> software for small business, has an 87% share." I would think that
> quickbooks has about the same market share today. But why?
>
> Why not use a free alternative, like SQL-Ledger, TinyERP, or GNUCash?
> Or a cheaper alternative like Peachtree? Amazingly, even microsoft can
> not seem to penetrate Intuit's market share.

Because "free" or "open source" are the opposite of capitalism and most
businesses don't like to promote communism. A better example is Linux. Linux
has 0.86% market share on the desktop (Microsoft has something like 92%).


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> But is QB really that great? From what I have read, a lot of people
> just hate it.

What's "a lot?" A dozen? A hundred-thousand? Even a hundred thousand is just
"noise" compared to 65 million (or how many ever QB users there are).

>
> I have a friend who has a small business, he uses QB because his
> accountant will charge 3X as much if the files are not in QB format.
> Are there a lot accountants like that?

Could be. His accountant probably uses the Accountant's Edition which takes
a QB file and does whatever accountants do. When using another system, the
accountant will have to do it the old-fashioned way: by hand. That costs
more. It's the difference between spray-painting your car and using a brush
(or roller).





Posted by walterbyrd on January 27, 2008, 10:31 pm
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> Because "free" or "open source" are the opposite of capitalism and most
> businesses don't like to promote communism.

So IBM, Oracle, Sun Microsystems, Redhat, and Novell, are all run by
commies? I had no idea. Doesn't Intuit give some software away for
free?


Posted by Allan Martin on January 28, 2008, 9:34 am
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> walterbyrd wrote:
>> According to a USA-Today article, in 2006: "QuickBooks, accounting
>> software for small business, has an 87% share." I would think that
>> quickbooks has about the same market share today. But why?
>>
>> Why not use a free alternative, like SQL-Ledger, TinyERP, or GNUCash?
>> Or a cheaper alternative like Peachtree? Amazingly, even microsoft can
>> not seem to penetrate Intuit's market share.
>
> Because "free" or "open source" are the opposite of capitalism and most
> businesses don't like to promote communism. A better example is Linux.
> Linux has 0.86% market share on the desktop (Microsoft has something like
> 92%).
>
>
>>
>> But is QB really that great? From what I have read, a lot of people
>> just hate it.
>
> What's "a lot?" A dozen? A hundred-thousand? Even a hundred thousand is
> just "noise" compared to 65 million (or how many ever QB users there are).
>
>>
>> I have a friend who has a small business, he uses QB because his
>> accountant will charge 3X as much if the files are not in QB format.
>> Are there a lot accountants like that?
>
> Could be. His accountant probably uses the Accountant's Edition which
> takes a QB file and does whatever accountants do. When using another
> system, the accountant will have to do it the old-fashioned way: by hand.
> That costs more. It's the difference between spray-painting your car and
> using a brush (or roller).

It's 2008. Accountants use special software for handling interim and year
end engagements. These programs are used to make adjusting journal entries,
generate financial statments and export to their tax software. All that is
needed is a copy of the client's trial balance and GL. I havn't performed
year end work by hand in 20 years.





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Posted by Tom Del Rosso on January 29, 2008, 2:36 pm
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> walterbyrd wrote:
>> But is QB really that great? From what I have read, a lot of people
>> just hate it.
>
> What's "a lot?" A dozen? A hundred-thousand? Even a hundred thousand
> is just "noise" compared to 65 million (or how many ever QB users
> there are).

Most IT people hate it, but they have to install what people want.

To put it briefly, you have to do things to make QB work in a business
network that should not be necessary with a well-designed program. Some of
those things compromise the reliability of other programs and the OS itself.
Starting with QB 2007 it alegedly is not necessary to take those measures
any more, but I only started with 2007 recently so I'm not sure yet.
Anyway, it took them way too long to fix the problems.

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Posted by robert on January 31, 2008, 10:29 pm
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I think qb is average at best, I use it because i know how to and
because we use payroll which seems to work ok versus the
alternative...that is...paying someone else to learn it. I'd be
suprised if open source suported payroll in any capacity but perhaps
it does.

Quickbooks is not easy, it's a pain in the butt, especially with
payroll, b/c you're forced to upgrade. I remember a couple years ago,
we were 'forced' to upgrade from I beilve 2003 to 2006 b/c of
payroll...so we get the 5 user upgrade and load it on the computers,
then some crazy message comes up that says something like, if your
using a server you must have ONE COPY OF QBPRO ON YOUR SERVER. well I
dont know what your servers are like but no one uses our server, its
the server it isnt a 'pc' that an employee would use, so we really
only had a 4 pack and sure enough about 8 months later we get the 2007
upgrade disk.

THEN we get 2008 mandatory upgrade due to payroll, no big deal b/c
it's 'free upgrade' for payroll users, but guess what??? Intuit now
only offers 3 pack, well we have 5 computers that use qbpro, so I call
them and their response? We only have 3 pack, you'll have to use that
and buy 2 individual users...I'm afraid to upgrade to be honest but
we'll have to eventually.

Getting back to easy, it's easy for me because I took a lot of time to
learn it and perhaps also b/c i have an mba and some general
understanting of accounting, but it is a difficult system, maybe it's
easy relative to other accounting packages i'm not sure.

Grading it out, qb pro - c+, quickbooks online - F is sux

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