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401K Moved from Hewitt to Fidelity JerryC 01-25-2008
Posted by JerryC on January 25, 2008, 6:15 pm
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My company moved our 401k from Hewitt to Fidelity Netbenefits. I had
both set up to xfer electronically in quicken 2007 deluxe windows. i
created the new fidelity acct and it successfully connected to fidelity
and imported the transactions. but how do i clear it out of the hewitt
account, or modify these quicken txns to show that they came from
hewitt? right now my assets are overstated because both accts have that
same amount. TIA

Posted by Oilcan on January 25, 2008, 8:46 pm
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The easy way (perhaps not the best way) is to do an Remove Share transaction
from Hewitt. Do it for each fund and the balance should become zero.

A better way - which I have done over the years - is to stop the download
from old company and started the download from the new company into the same
Quicken Account. You would need to delete any Transfer Out / Transfer In
(Remove or Add Shares). This way you would retain your history in one
account.

There are other ways to accomplish this - depends on what you need.
> My company moved our 401k from Hewitt to Fidelity Netbenefits. I had
> both set up to xfer electronically in quicken 2007 deluxe windows. i
> created the new fidelity acct and it successfully connected to fidelity
> and imported the transactions. but how do i clear it out of the hewitt
> account, or modify these quicken txns to show that they came from
> hewitt? right now my assets are overstated because both accts have that
> same amount. TIA


Posted by John Pollard on January 25, 2008, 9:19 pm
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JerryC wrote:
> My company moved our 401k from Hewitt to Fidelity Netbenefits.
> I had
> both set up to xfer electronically in quicken 2007 deluxe
> windows. i
> created the new fidelity acct and it successfully connected to
> fidelity and imported the transactions. but how do i clear it
> out of
> the hewitt account, or modify these quicken txns to show that
> they
> came from hewitt? right now my assets are overstated because
> both
> accts have that same amount.

Your problem started when you didn't consider the ramifications
before you Accepted downloaded transactions.

There is no way that any financial institution could know
whether, or how, you had setup your Quicken accounts ... and no
way they could effectively address the situation even if they
knew.

You need to understand how Quicken works, and how Quicken
interfaces with the real world.

The way to approach your situation in Quicken is to "sell" all
the holdings in the "old" account, "transfer" the resulting cash
to the new account, and create (or Accept) Buy transactions in
the new account ... duplicating what happened in the real-world.

[If you believe you have a problem relating to Quicken thinking
you are making a "contribution" to the "new" account; there is a
way to overcome that.]

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John Pollard
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Posted by JerryC on January 26, 2008, 7:10 am
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Thanks John. I realize I screwed up now. I should have posted *before* I
downloaded the new transactions and gotten advice here.

So now that the damage is done, can I use your technique below and just
delete the downloaded transactions? Won't get get me back to fairly good
shape?

If not, maybe I'll just do what oilcan said, it sounds simple, even
though I'll lose the continuity of my history for this fund.

Thanks....

> JerryC wrote:
> > My company moved our 401k from Hewitt to Fidelity Netbenefits.
> > I had
> > both set up to xfer electronically in quicken 2007 deluxe
> > windows. i
> > created the new fidelity acct and it successfully connected to
> > fidelity and imported the transactions. but how do i clear it
> > out of
> > the hewitt account, or modify these quicken txns to show that
> > they
> > came from hewitt? right now my assets are overstated because
> > both
> > accts have that same amount.
>
> Your problem started when you didn't consider the ramifications
> before you Accepted downloaded transactions.
>
> There is no way that any financial institution could know
> whether, or how, you had setup your Quicken accounts ... and no
> way they could effectively address the situation even if they
> knew.
>
> You need to understand how Quicken works, and how Quicken
> interfaces with the real world.
>
> The way to approach your situation in Quicken is to "sell" all
> the holdings in the "old" account, "transfer" the resulting cash
> to the new account, and create (or Accept) Buy transactions in
> the new account ... duplicating what happened in the real-world.
>
> [If you believe you have a problem relating to Quicken thinking
> you are making a "contribution" to the "new" account; there is a
> way to overcome that.]
>
>

Posted by John Pollard on January 26, 2008, 10:33 am
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JerryC wrote:
> So now that the damage is done, can I use your technique below
> and
> just delete the downloaded transactions? Won't get get me back
> to
> fairly good shape?

Yes, you can delete the downloaded transactions in the new
account, sell the securities in the old account and transfer the
cash to the new account, and buy the new securities there.

Quicken wants to treat the transfer of "cash" into a retirement
account as a "comtribution". I don't know all the ramifications
of that in your situation, but I know how to avoid it.

When you sell all the securities in the old account, use the
resulting "cash" to purchase a dummy security in the old
account, call it "Dummy Cash", or "Cash Transfer" or some such.
Then use the Quicken "Shares transferred between accounts"
transaction to transfer that dummy cash security to the new 401k
account. Then sell the dummy cash security in the new 401k
account to generate the actual cash to purchase the other
securities.

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John Pollard
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