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After upgrading q2004H&B to Q2006H&B: jo 01-11-2007
Posted by John Pollard on January 14, 2007, 4:43 pm
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jo wrote:
> Now as to the other issues: In my Portfolio view, it
> isn't that one account is hidden or configured
> differently. All my accounts are in the View, but only
> one shows 5 year returns. Both of them show 1, and 3
> year returns. I can't think of what could cause this.
> Can you?

Off the top of my head: only that maybe you haven't owned any
securities in the account for 5 years ... or that the securities
you have owned in that account for 5 years are not selected to
appear in the view.

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John Pollard
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Posted by jo on January 14, 2007, 7:55 pm
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John Pollard wrote:
> jo wrote:
> > Now as to the other issues: In my Portfolio view, it
> > isn't that one account is hidden or configured
> > differently. All my accounts are in the View, but only
> > one shows 5 year returns. Both of them show 1, and 3
> > year returns. I can't think of what could cause this.
> > Can you?
>
> Off the top of my head: only that maybe you haven't owned any
> securities in the account for 5 years ... or that the securities
> you have owned in that account for 5 years are not selected to
> appear in the view.
>

No, if you remember from my first description, I have had all the
securities in question for more than 5 years, some even more then 10.
All my securities from both brokerages are selected to appear in the
view, or they wouldn't be showing their 1 and 3 year returns. It
shouldn't matter that the securities in the brokerage that do show a 5
year return are mutual funds and the ones in the other brokerage are
stocks,bonds, unit trusts, etc but that happens to be the case.

I can't think of any creative pattern that could cause this, so maybe
I'll post it as a separate thread for all to contribute to.

jo
> --
> John Pollard
> First initial underscore Last name at mchsi dot com
> Please reply to newsgroup

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John Pollard wrote:
> jo wrote:
> > Now as to the other issues: In my Portfolio view, it
> > isn't that one account is hidden or configured
> > differently. All my accounts are in the View, but only
> > one shows 5 year returns. Both of them show 1, and 3
> > year returns. I can't think of what could cause this.
> > Can you?
>
> Off the top of my head: only that maybe you haven't owned any
> securities in the account for 5 years ... or that the securities
> you have owned in that account for 5 years are not selected to
> appear in the view.
>

No, if you remember from my first description, I have had all the
securities in question for more than 5 years, some even more then 10.
All my securities from both brokerages are selected to appear in the
view, or they wouldn't be showing their 1 and 3 year returns. It
shouldn't matter that the securities in the brokerage that do show a 5
year return are mutual funds and the ones in the other brokerage are
stocks,bonds, unit trusts, etc but that happens to be the case.

I can't think of any creative pattern that could cause this, so maybe
I'll post it as a separate thread for all to contribute to.

jo
> --
> John Pollard
> First initial underscore Last name at mchsi dot com
> Please reply to newsgroup


Posted by John Pollard on January 15, 2007, 10:10 am
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jo wrote:
> John Pollard wrote:
>> jo wrote:
>>> Now as to the other issues: In my Portfolio view, it
>>> isn't that one account is hidden or configured
>>> differently. All my accounts are in the View, but only
>>> one shows 5 year returns. Both of them show 1, and 3
>>> year returns. I can't think of what could cause
>>> this. Can you?

>> Off the top of my head: only that maybe you haven't
>> owned any securities in the account for 5 years ... or
>> that the securities you have owned in that account for 5
>> years are not selected to appear in the view.

> No, if you remember from my first description, I have had
> all the securities in question for more than 5 years,
> some even more then 10. All my securities from both
> brokerages are selected to appear in the view, or they
> wouldn't be showing their 1 and 3 year returns. It
> shouldn't matter that the securities in the brokerage
> that do show a 5 year return are mutual funds and the
> ones in the other brokerage are stocks,bonds, unit
> trusts, etc but that happens to be the case.
>
> I can't think of any creative pattern that could cause
> this, so maybe I'll post it as a separate thread for all
> to contribute to.

I assume you are talking about "Average Annual Return".

There is at least one reason why you might not see Average
Annual Return for a security for which you have very old buy
transactions.

If you have entered a corporate spinoff in Quicken, and kept the
transactions that Quicken generated for that spinoff (which
would include one buy transaction for each lot of the company
doing the spinning off) those Quicken generated buy transactions
may have very old dates, but they are not included in Average
Annual Returns until the appropriate length of time following
the spinoff; presumably because you did not really own those
shares until the date of the spinoff.

You can also see the effect in a Net Worth report customized to
show "Account Detail" with in interval of, say, "Year". You may
have those buy transactions generated by the Corporate spinoff
going back decades, but Quicken's Net Worth report will not show
any value for the spun off company until the date of the
spinoff.

As I said, I can't imagine that this is the explantion for all
securities you hold at a single brokerage, but it can explain
apparent "missing" Average Annual Returns for a spunoff
security.

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John Pollard
First initial underscore Last name at mchsi dot com
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Posted by jo on January 25, 2007, 2:52 pm
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> jo wrote:
> > John Pollard wrote:
> >> jo wrote:
> >>> Now as to the other issues: In my Portfolio view, it
> >>> isn't that one account is hidden or configured
> >>> differently. All my accounts are in the View, but only
> >>> one shows 5 year returns. Both of them show 1, and 3
> >>> year returns. I can't think of what could cause
> >>> this. Can you?
> >> Off the top of my head: only that maybe you haven't
> >> owned any securities in the account for 5 years ... or
> >> that the securities you have owned in that account for 5
> >> years are not selected to appear in the view.
> > No, if you remember from my first description, I have had
> > all the securities in question for more than 5 years,
> > some even more then 10. All my securities from both
> > brokerages are selected to appear in the view, or they
> > wouldn't be showing their 1 and 3 year returns. It
> > shouldn't matter that the securities in the brokerage
> > that do show a 5 year return are mutual funds and the
> > ones in the other brokerage are stocks,bonds, unit
> > trusts, etc but that happens to be the case.
>
> > I can't think of any creative pattern that could cause
> > this, so maybe I'll post it as a separate thread for all
> > to contribute to.I assume you are talking about "Average Annual Return".
>
> There is at least one reason why you might not see Average
> Annual Return for a security for which you have very old buy
> transactions.
>
> If you have entered a corporate spinoff in Quicken, and kept the
> transactions that Quicken generated for that spinoff (which
> would include one buy transaction for each lot of the company
> doing the spinning off) those Quicken generated buy transactions
> may have very old dates, but they are not included in Average
> Annual Returns until the appropriate length of time following
> the spinoff; presumably because you did not really own those
> shares until the date of the spinoff.
>
> You can also see the effect in a Net Worth report customized to
> show "Account Detail" with in interval of, say, "Year". You may
> have those buy transactions generated by the Corporate spinoff
> going back decades, but Quicken's Net Worth report will not show
> any value for the spun off company until the date of the
> spinoff.
>
> As I said, I can't imagine that this is the explantion for all
> securities you hold at a single brokerage, but it can explain
> apparent "missing" Average Annual Returns for a spunoff
> security.
>
> --

I have some spin offs, but those are a small part of the portfolio.
ALL my securities show no 5 year avg annual return. I'm going to start
a separate thread on this.



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