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Alternate Hard Disk drive mike 06-21-2006
Posted by mike on June 21, 2006, 7:26 pm
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I am using Quicken 2004R3 and Windows Xp Media Home Edition 5.1 SP 2.
This is a new computer. On my old computer I used to backup my Quicken
date to Zip drives. The new computer does not have Zip drives but does
have CD RW and DVD RW capability.

Today I tried to backup the Quicken files to a CD RW. I put the CD RW
into the CD drive and did a 'quick' format of the CD. I then went to
Quicken and ran a backup onto the CD. I got a message from Quicken
saying 'backup completed successfully.' I then went to Windows Explorer
to look at the contents of the CD and it did not contain any data.

I then went to Quicken . Help > Backup. I found the following statement
which I do not understand: " Before you can back up to a CD-R or a
CD-RW you must configure your CD-RW drive to work like an alternate
hard disk drive.

Can anyone shed some light on what this is asking me to do?
How to do it?
What are the ramifications of doing it?

Thanks for any and all help.


Posted by Malke on June 21, 2006, 7:34 pm
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mike wrote:

> I am using Quicken 2004R3 and Windows Xp Media Home Edition 5.1 SP 2.
> This is a new computer. On my old computer I used to backup my Quicken
> date to Zip drives. The new computer does not have Zip drives but does
> have CD RW and DVD RW capability.
>
> Today I tried to backup the Quicken files to a CD RW. I put the CD RW
> into the CD drive and did a 'quick' format of the CD. I then went to
> Quicken and ran a backup onto the CD. I got a message from Quicken
> saying 'backup completed successfully.' I then went to Windows
> Explorer to look at the contents of the CD and it did not contain any
> data.
>
> I then went to Quicken . Help > Backup. I found the following
> statement which I do not understand: " Before you can back up to a
> CD-R or a CD-RW you must configure your CD-RW drive to work like an
> alternate hard disk drive.
>
> Can anyone shed some light on what this is asking me to do?
> How to do it?
> What are the ramifications of doing it?

The message is saying that you need to use packet-writing software like
InCD or Direct CD. I don't recommend doing this because these backups
should be completely transferrable. If you try to transfer the data to
another computer that doesn't have the same packet-writing software
installed (or doesn't have a UDF reader), the CD-RW you carefully made
will look blank.

It is better to just use a CD-R. Make a folder for your Quicken backups
in My Documents and set that as the default backup location. This way
you can back up your whole My Documents folder at one time, including
the Quicken backup.

Malke
--
Elephant Boy Computers
www.elephantboycomputers.com
"Don't Panic!"
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User

Posted by mike on June 21, 2006, 8:13 pm
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Thank you for your response. I modified your suggestion a bit and would
like to insure that I am on safe ground.

I made a Quicken Backup folder in My documents on the C drive.
I did a Quicken Backup into this new folder.
I made a new Quicken Backup folder on the CD-RW.
Using Windows Explorer I then copied the backup files from My Documents
to the new folder on the CD-RW. This seemed to work OK.
Because I sometimes must backup Quicken several times a day I prefer to
use a few CD-RWs and keep cycling them by overlaying the data on the
oldest CD-RW.
Am I on solid ground with this method?
Once I am sure I have a working Backup strategy I will then move on to
the Recover process.


Malke wrote:
> mike wrote:
>
> > I am using Quicken 2004R3 and Windows Xp Media Home Edition 5.1 SP 2.
> > This is a new computer. On my old computer I used to backup my Quicken
> > date to Zip drives. The new computer does not have Zip drives but does
> > have CD RW and DVD RW capability.
> >
> > Today I tried to backup the Quicken files to a CD RW. I put the CD RW
> > into the CD drive and did a 'quick' format of the CD. I then went to
> > Quicken and ran a backup onto the CD. I got a message from Quicken
> > saying 'backup completed successfully.' I then went to Windows
> > Explorer to look at the contents of the CD and it did not contain any
> > data.
> >
> > I then went to Quicken . Help > Backup. I found the following
> > statement which I do not understand: " Before you can back up to a
> > CD-R or a CD-RW you must configure your CD-RW drive to work like an
> > alternate hard disk drive.
> >
> > Can anyone shed some light on what this is asking me to do?
> > How to do it?
> > What are the ramifications of doing it?
>
> The message is saying that you need to use packet-writing software like
> InCD or Direct CD. I don't recommend doing this because these backups
> should be completely transferrable. If you try to transfer the data to
> another computer that doesn't have the same packet-writing software
> installed (or doesn't have a UDF reader), the CD-RW you carefully made
> will look blank.
>
> It is better to just use a CD-R. Make a folder for your Quicken backups
> in My Documents and set that as the default backup location. This way
> you can back up your whole My Documents folder at one time, including
> the Quicken backup.
>
> Malke
> --
> Elephant Boy Computers
> www.elephantboycomputers.com
> "Don't Panic!"
> MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User


Posted by Ken Blake, MVP on June 22, 2006, 11:57 am
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mike wrote:

> Thank you for your response. I modified your suggestion a bit and
> would like to insure that I am on safe ground.
>
> I made a Quicken Backup folder in My documents on the C drive.
> I did a Quicken Backup into this new folder.
> I made a new Quicken Backup folder on the CD-RW.
> Using Windows Explorer I then copied the backup files from My
> Documents to the new folder on the CD-RW. This seemed to work OK.
> Because I sometimes must backup Quicken several times a day I prefer
> to use a few CD-RWs and keep cycling them by overlaying the data on
> the oldest CD-RW.
> Am I on solid ground with this method?


My personal view is that CDRWs are much less reliable than CDRs, and I
always use CDRs instead. CDRs are very cheap these days; you can often buy
them for pennies, and sometimes they are even free after rebate.

Another approach, and the one I use for backing up my Quicken data, is to
back up to USB thumb drives.

--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
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Posted by Paul_B on June 22, 2006, 8:02 am
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On 21 Jun 2006 17:13:59 -0700, mike wrote:

> Because I sometimes must backup Quicken several times a day I prefer to
> use a few CD-RWs and keep cycling them by overlaying the data on the
> oldest CD-RW.
> Am I on solid ground with this method?


If you backup that often I would suggest getting a scheduled
backup utility. Cobian Backup is free and excellent. For safety's
sake you could add a second hard drive, either in box or on the
network, to the backup regimen. This set up would work
independently of Quicken's own backup faculty.

p.

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