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Average annual return mred 06-06-2007
Posted by mred on June 6, 2007, 10:48 pm
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My wife and I have 401K's at MFS one is large the other small. For
some reason transactions and balances from the large account were
downloaded into the small account. No problem I just deleted them and
manually corrected share balances.
Now the little account show a -99.9% return, on the performance tab of
the investing center. Any suggestion on how I could correct this.
TIA
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mred


Posted by John Pollard on June 8, 2007, 12:50 am
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mred wrote:
> My wife and I have 401K's at MFS one is large the other small.
> For
> some reason transactions and balances from the large account
> were
> downloaded into the small account. No problem I just deleted
> them and
> manually corrected share balances.
> Now the little account show a -99.9% return, on the
> performance tab of
> the investing center. Any suggestion on how I could correct
> this.

I'm skeptical that I can help, but I do have a question.

How did you "manually correct share balances"?

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Posted by mred on June 7, 2007, 10:39 pm
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wrote:

>mred wrote:
>
>> them and
>> manually corrected share balances.
>> Now the little account show a -99.9% return, on the
>> performance tab of
>> the investing center. Any suggestion on how I could correct
>> this.
>
>I'm skeptical that I can help, but I do have a question.
>
>How did you "manually correct share balances"?

Investing center
Account (401k/403b)
Summary tab
Update 401k holding.
I just noticed this option isn't available if account is set up for
online access.
The way this initially happened, my account always had on line access.
I added my wife's account, then the next group of transactions were
placed in her account on down. I thought about deleting her 401k
account and starting over, but that would affect the payroll deposits
to this account. I tried to restore a backup, but it still remembered
the last download date.

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mred


Posted by John Pollard on June 8, 2007, 2:00 pm
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mred wrote:
> On Fri, 08 Jun 2007 00:50:29 GMT, "John Pollard"
> wrote:
>
>> mred wrote:
>>
>>> them and
>>> manually corrected share balances.
>>> Now the little account show a -99.9% return, on the
>>> performance tab of
>>> the investing center. Any suggestion on how I could correct
>>> this.
>>
>> I'm skeptical that I can help, but I do have a question.
>>
>> How did you "manually correct share balances"?
>
> Investing center
> Account (401k/403b)
> Summary tab
> Update 401k holding.

Nuts, I should have asked you what Quicken version (year) you
are using.

I think your problem may relate to placeholders, which can be
"hidden" by Quicken. In Q2006 and later, you can have Quicken
display all hidden investment transactions by modifying your
Quicken Program Investment Transactions preferences to "Show
hidden transactions".

For starters, I think you need to make sure there are no
placeholder transactions in the account (they have an Action
value of "Entry"); at least for securities which are not held in
the account. Then you need to make sure that no other
transactions were linked to those placeholders; such
transactions would likely have "N/A" in the "Cash Amt" column in
the Transactions List for the account.

> I just noticed this option isn't available if account is set
> up for
> online access.
> The way this initially happened, my account always had on line
> access.
> I added my wife's account, then the next group of transactions
> were
> placed in her account on down.

> I thought about deleting her 401k
> account and starting over, but that would affect the payroll
> deposits
> to this account.

If you felt there was no other way to get things in order but to
start over, you could create a new Quicken 401k account, then
use Find/Replace to modify all the old paycheck transactions to
transfer the 401k contributions to the new 401k account. But I
don't think this should be necessary.

> I tried to restore a backup, but it still remembered
> the last download date.

It couldn't have been before the download then.

I would think that reverting to a backup would be a reasonable
way to deal with the problem, assuming you can't correct it
manually.

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Posted by mred on June 8, 2007, 9:58 pm
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wrote:


>Nuts, I should have asked you what Quicken version (year) you
>are using.
>
Quicken 2007 Premier
>I think your problem may relate to placeholders, which can be
>"hidden" by Quicken. In Q2006 and later, you can have Quicken
>display all hidden investment transactions by modifying your
>Quicken Program Investment Transactions preferences to "Show
>hidden transactions".
>
I think placeholder's were the culprit. I fixed this,then the AAR
corrected itself.

>

>> I tried to restore a backup, but it still remembered
>> the last download date.
Not sure, but I thought it was. I keep multiple redundant backups,
just in case.
Probably should have deleted original file first, then restored. I'll
review the correct way to restore from backup, if I should need to do
it in future.
>It couldn't have been before the download then.
>
>I would think that reverting to a backup would be a reasonable
>way to deal with the problem, assuming you can't correct it
>manually.

Thanks for help
Ed
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mred


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