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Backup including date Caryl 01-22-2007
Posted by clay on January 23, 2007, 9:33 am
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 Regarding backup "time" ,I just loaded Quicken clicked backup ,back up
directory on external hard drive appeared clicked "ok",10 mb quicken
file backed up in 3 seconds.

>
> > It takes 2 clicks, Backup and Save. Not a lot of workYou're right. Not
nearly as much work as rebuidling a month's worth of data.
>
>
>
> >> I'm in the school that says backups are way too much work. I've used
> >> Quicken for over 15 years, and backup once a month, if that.
>
> >> Only you can decide which backup frequency is worth the effort, but even
> >> if I have to recreate everything since my last backup, I'll still be time
> >> ahead of all I've saved not doing any.
>
> >> --
> >> Regards,
> >> Fred
>
> >>>I use Quicken 2005 Deluxe. For years I have been backing up to a zip,
> >>> but I recently installed a second hard drive and had to get rid of my
> >>> zip drive. Rather than using an external zip drive, I am now backing up
> >>> to a hard drive that I use only for backups. To be safe I suppose I
> >>> should also backup to a CD.
>
> >>> I am only keeping one backup copy, writing over it each time I perform
> >>> the manual backup, which is almost every day. But now I am wondering if
> >>> I should be dating my backups and keeping several days worth. (I do
> >>> keep five versions of the automatic backup.)
>
> >>> What is the advantage of dating my backups and why would I need more
> >>> than one version?
>
> >>> Thanks for explaining this to me.
>
> >>> Caryl


Posted by clay on January 22, 2007, 7:48 pm
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 Caryl,
I have been backing up to external hard drive for 3 years and writing
over it each time and have felt comfortable doing that By default
quicken keeps backups of your file in a folder in quicken directory
called BACKUP.If your hard drive were to crash ,then those backups
would be of no use.If you feel like you might need another back up on
another drive,an inexpensive way to do it( I do this sometimes),faster
than using a cd is purchase a 128mb flash drive "key' and attach it to
USB port and back up quicken to that,
hope this helps

> I use Quicken 2005 Deluxe. For years I have been backing up to a zip,
> but I recently installed a second hard drive and had to get rid of my
> zip drive. Rather than using an external zip drive, I am now backing up
> to a hard drive that I use only for backups. To be safe I suppose I
> should also backup to a CD.
>
> I am only keeping one backup copy, writing over it each time I perform
> the manual backup, which is almost every day. But now I am wondering if
> I should be dating my backups and keeping several days worth. (I do
> keep five versions of the automatic backup.)
>
> What is the advantage of dating my backups and why would I need more
> than one version?
>
> Thanks for explaining this to me.
>
> Caryl


Posted by John Pollard on January 22, 2007, 8:55 pm
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Caryl wrote:
> I use Quicken 2005 Deluxe. For years I have been backing
> up to a zip, but I recently installed a second hard drive
> and had to get rid of my zip drive. Rather than using an
> external zip drive, I am now backing up to a hard drive
> that I use only for backups. To be safe I suppose I
> should also backup to a CD.
>
> I am only keeping one backup copy, writing over it each
> time I perform the manual backup, which is almost every
> day. But now I am wondering if I should be dating my
> backups and keeping several days worth. (I do keep five
> versions of the automatic backup.)
>
> What is the advantage of dating my backups and why would
> I need more than one version?

There are two basic reasons for keeping backups: to recover from
software/user-error type problems, and to recover from
hardware/theft problems.

If there was no possibility of hardware/theft problems, you'd
need no offline backups, you could just keep as many backups as
you like on your hard drive. But since we know that drives can
fail, fires can consume pc's, and thieves can steal pc's; we
make sure we keep decent backups offline.

But the most likely need for a backup is to recover from the
first type of problem: software/user-error.

As for how many backups you keep, and for how long; I see two
considerations. The obvious one is how much tolerance do you
have for bringing a backup up to date. The more difficult it
would be to bring a backup up to date (how much manual effort
would be involved in getting missing transactions entered
correctly), the more backups you should keep.

The other consideration, that some people forget about, is that
data corruption (caused by you or the software) may not be
noticed immediately. If you kept only one backup, it could have
corruption that you had not yet detected: when you detect
corruption in your current file, and hope to fix it by restoring
your backup ... the backup may have the same problem. There is
no way to know for certain how long after you get corruption you
will notice it. The more backups you have, the more likely you
are to be able to find one with good data. If you only have six
month's worth of data all told, it may not matter much; but if
you have ten years worth of data, and your current file and your
only backup are unusable ... you have lost ten years worth of
data ... even if the only usable backup you had was a two year
old backup, that would be much better than no backup.

I don't use dated backup files; I control my backups by the
names of the folders where I save them. But the principles are
the same.

Backups are cheap compared to human labor.

--
John Pollard
First initial underscore Last name at mchsi dot com
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Posted by James Colbert on January 23, 2007, 9:29 am
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Others have explained the need for multiple dated back ups. In addition to
that, All my data (including backups) gets deposited on my Data partition.
The back ups will get copied to different drives and once a week or so, I
use Acronis T.I. to image my Data partition, which is kept on it's own
partition (Acronis Images) and (about bi-monthly or monthly) gets burned to
DVD.

I've not often needed those back ups, but when I have, it's been worth every
minute of effort. I also use T.I. to image my system drive about once a
week, which has been a lifesaver on multiple occasions. One can never have
enough back ups.

James



>I use Quicken 2005 Deluxe. For years I have been backing up to a zip,
> but I recently installed a second hard drive and had to get rid of my
> zip drive. Rather than using an external zip drive, I am now backing up
> to a hard drive that I use only for backups. To be safe I suppose I
> should also backup to a CD.
>
> I am only keeping one backup copy, writing over it each time I perform
> the manual backup, which is almost every day. But now I am wondering if
> I should be dating my backups and keeping several days worth. (I do
> keep five versions of the automatic backup.)
>
> What is the advantage of dating my backups and why would I need more
> than one version?
>
> Thanks for explaining this to me.
>
> Caryl
>


Posted by Caryl on January 24, 2007, 4:15 pm
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Thanks to everyone for all your comments.

Caryl

> Others have explained the need for multiple dated back ups. In addition to
> that, All my data (including backups) gets deposited on my Data partition.
> The back ups will get copied to different drives and once a week or so, I
> use Acronis T.I. to image my Data partition, which is kept on it's own
> partition (Acronis Images) and (about bi-monthly or monthly) gets burned to
> DVD.
>
> I've not often needed those back ups, but when I have, it's been worth every
> minute of effort. I also use T.I. to image my system drive about once a
> week, which has been a lifesaver on multiple occasions. One can never have
> enough back ups.
>
> James
>
>
>
>
> >I use Quicken 2005 Deluxe. For years I have been backing up to a zip,
> > but I recently installed a second hard drive and had to get rid of my
> > zip drive. Rather than using an external zip drive, I am now backing up
> > to a hard drive that I use only for backups. To be safe I suppose I
> > should also backup to a CD.
>
> > I am only keeping one backup copy, writing over it each time I perform
> > the manual backup, which is almost every day. But now I am wondering if
> > I should be dating my backups and keeping several days worth. (I do
> > keep five versions of the automatic backup.)
>
> > What is the advantage of dating my backups and why would I need more
> > than one version?
>
> > Thanks for explaining this to me.
>
> > Caryl- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -


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