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Backups not limiting as selected Robert Ginn 05-19-2006
Posted by Robert Ginn on May 19, 2006, 9:21 pm
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 In the options for Quicken file backup I have selected two backups so the files
will fit on a 64MB
ATP card. My card now has three sets of backups, with five files each, named
2006data_20060506,
....20060508, and ....20060509. Any attempt to backup is stopped and I get the
warning, "Your
backup disk is out of space. Insert a new disk." This occurs even when I tell
Quicken to warn me
when it is overwriting files during backup -- it doesn't overwrite files, and it
saves more file
sets than I specified. How can I get Quicken to backup just two sets of files
and overwrite old
backups?
Thanks very much.
Bob

Posted by John Pollard on May 19, 2006, 11:21 pm
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> In the options for Quicken file backup I have selected two
> backups so the files will fit on a 64MB ATP card. My card now
> has three sets of backups, with five files each, named
> 2006data_20060506, ....20060508, and ....20060509. Any
> attempt to backup is stopped and I get the warning, "Your
> backup disk is out of space. Insert a new disk." This occurs
> even when I tell Quicken to warn me when it is overwriting
> files during backup -- it doesn't overwrite files, and it
> saves more file sets than I specified. How can I get Quicken
> to backup just two sets of files and overwrite old backups?

Because you have chosen to give a unique name to each of your
backup files ( by suffixing the date of the backup to the
filename); virtually all of your backup files will have a unique
name ... thus Quicken will have no way to know to "overwrite"
any previous backup file.



Posted by Antoine Mitchell on May 20, 2006, 10:49 am
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>Because you have chosen to give a unique name to each of your
>backup files ( by suffixing the date of the backup to the
>filename); virtually all of your backup files will have a unique
>name ... thus Quicken will have no way to know to "overwrite"
>any previous backup file.

This is poor programming on the part of Intuit. If there is an option to limit
the
number of backup files, then it should be trivial for Quicken to keep track of
when each
backup was created, and automatically delete the oldest backup when a new backup
is
written. The fact that the file names are unique should not be a burden to
limiting the
number of backup files.

Posted by DP on May 20, 2006, 10:53 am
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>
> This is poor programming on the part of Intuit. If there is an option to
> limit the
> number of backup files, then it should be trivial for Quicken to keep
> track of when each
> backup was created, and automatically delete the oldest backup when a new
> backup is
> written. The fact that the file names are unique should not be a burden
> to limiting the
> number of backup files.

I believe it does that already with the automatic backups (the ones it does
without prompting you).
What you're talking about are the backups that don't get done unless you
click OK to the backup when prompted. These are the ones you're naming
yourself. At least I'm pretty sure that's what you're talking about.
I'm not necessarily defending the programming. I'm just trying to clear up
some confusion.






Posted by John Pollard on May 20, 2006, 11:12 am
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>> This is poor programming on the part of Intuit. If there is
>> an option to limit the
>> number of backup files, then it should be trivial for Quicken
>> to keep track of when each
>> backup was created, and automatically delete the oldest
>> backup when a new backup is
>> written. The fact that the file names are unique should not
>> be a burden to limiting the
>> number of backup files.

> I believe it does that already with the automatic backups (the
> ones it does without prompting you).
> What you're talking about are the backups that don't get done
> unless you click OK to the backup when prompted. These are the
> ones you're naming yourself. At least I'm pretty sure that's
> what you're talking about.
> I'm not necessarily defending the programming. I'm just trying
> to clear up some confusion.

You're correct; Quicken makes no attempt to control the number
of user backups.

And it would not be a trivial exercise to try to do it. Backups
may be moved. They may be copied. They may be renamed. All
outside of Quicken. It would be virtually impossible for
Quicken to keep track of them all and know which could be
deleted.

The problem with the unique named backups is that they guarantee
that no opportunity to "overwrite" the previous backup will
occur. Frankly, I have yet to find a use for putting the date
in the file name.




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