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BellSouth to AT&T Stock Sylvia 01-17-2007
Posted by Sylvia on January 17, 2007, 7:20 pm
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On December 29, 2006 I was holding 809.6203 shares of BellSouth Stock.
On that date the exchange to AT&T took place. Could someone please
tell me how to enter this transaction in Quicken 2006 and after making
the change will the cost basis be maintained so that it will be
available for future tax purposes?

BellSouth Share Exchange
BellSouth shares                 809.6203
Exchange Rate                 1.325
AT&T Stock Credited        1,072.746898

Thank you for any help.

Katie
On December 29, 2006 I was holding 809.6203 shares of BellSouth Stock.
On that date the exchange to AT&T took place. Could someone please
tell me how to enter this transaction in Quicken 2006 and after making
the change will the cost basis be maintained so that it will be
available for future tax purposes?

BellSouth Share Exchange
BellSouth shares                 809.6203
Exchange Rate                 1.325
AT&T Stock Credited        1,072.746898

Thank you for any help.

Katie

Posted by Eric Bloch on January 17, 2007, 9:10 pm
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Except for mutual funds you cannot have fractional shares.

1. You must go back thru ALL of your Bellsouth (BS) transactions and
eliminate fractions. If they were caused by splits or dividends reinvested
you received a book entry for the shares including fractions and then the
fractions were immediately sold for a gain or loss which was long or short
depending on the original purchase date.

2. Now take the whole shares and, in Quicken, sell all of them on the date
of ATT purchase.

3. Use ALL of the funds received to purchase the 1.325 X (BS shares) of ATT.

4. If you now have fractions of ATT enter a sell transaction for the $$ you
received for them. For IRS the gain or loss goes back to the original date
of BS purchase but Quicken will think they were acquired on the day of
transfer. Same goes for when you finally sell the remaining ATT shares.

Eric

> On December 29, 2006 I was holding 809.6203 shares of BellSouth Stock.
> On that date the exchange to AT&T took place. Could someone please
> tell me how to enter this transaction in Quicken 2006 and after making
> the change will the cost basis be maintained so that it will be
> available for future tax purposes?
>
> BellSouth Share Exchange
> BellSouth shares 809.6203
> Exchange Rate 1.325
> AT&T Stock Credited 1,072.746898
>
> Thank you for any help.
>
> Katie



Posted by Sylvia on January 17, 2007, 9:22 pm
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Thanks very much, Eric. This looks a lot more involved than I thought
it would be, so will have to sleep overnight on this and maybe it will
be clearer tomorrow morning. Again, thanks!

Katie

wrote:

>Except for mutual funds you cannot have fractional shares.
>
>1. You must go back thru ALL of your Bellsouth (BS) transactions and
>eliminate fractions. If they were caused by splits or dividends reinvested
>you received a book entry for the shares including fractions and then the
>fractions were immediately sold for a gain or loss which was long or short
>depending on the original purchase date.
>
>2. Now take the whole shares and, in Quicken, sell all of them on the date
>of ATT purchase.
>
>3. Use ALL of the funds received to purchase the 1.325 X (BS shares) of ATT.
>
>4. If you now have fractions of ATT enter a sell transaction for the $$ you
>received for them. For IRS the gain or loss goes back to the original date
>of BS purchase but Quicken will think they were acquired on the day of
>transfer. Same goes for when you finally sell the remaining ATT shares.
>
>Eric
>
>> On December 29, 2006 I was holding 809.6203 shares of BellSouth Stock.
>> On that date the exchange to AT&T took place. Could someone please
>> tell me how to enter this transaction in Quicken 2006 and after making
>> the change will the cost basis be maintained so that it will be
>> available for future tax purposes?
>>
>> BellSouth Share Exchange
>> BellSouth shares 809.6203
>> Exchange Rate 1.325
>> AT&T Stock Credited 1,072.746898
>>
>> Thank you for any help.
>>
>> Katie
>

Posted by wbertram on January 17, 2007, 9:45 pm
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Eric:

Companies issue and maintain records on fractional shares of stock.

Quicken works quite well with fractional shares of stock.

Except for those bits of misinformation, the procedure you describe is
workable.

Katie:

If you follow the procedures described by Eric (but using fractional
shares of course), you will have the correct number of ATT shares at the
correct price. Check your figures with those which ATT will provide
when you receive their paperwork.

But, there are two things to be aware of.

1) The exchange of SBC for ATT will be tax free, but Quicken will
(incorrectly) report the sale of SBC as a capital gain, and

2) Quicken will have an incorrect acquisition date for the asset. The
acquisition date for the ATT shares should be the acquisition date of
the original SBC shares, not the date the SBC shares were exchanged for
ATT shares.

Depending on the version of Quicken you have (Basic, Deluxe, etc., and
Year), there may be better ways to record this transaction which will
avoid these two problems.

Eric Bloch wrote:
> Except for mutual funds you cannot have fractional shares.
>
> 1. You must go back thru ALL of your Bellsouth (BS) transactions and
> eliminate fractions. If they were caused by splits or dividends reinvested
> you received a book entry for the shares including fractions and then the
> fractions were immediately sold for a gain or loss which was long or short
> depending on the original purchase date.
>
> 2. Now take the whole shares and, in Quicken, sell all of them on the date
> of ATT purchase.
>
> 3. Use ALL of the funds received to purchase the 1.325 X (BS shares) of ATT.
>
> 4. If you now have fractions of ATT enter a sell transaction for the $$ you
> received for them. For IRS the gain or loss goes back to the original date
> of BS purchase but Quicken will think they were acquired on the day of
> transfer. Same goes for when you finally sell the remaining ATT shares.
>
> Eric
>
>> On December 29, 2006 I was holding 809.6203 shares of BellSouth Stock.
>> On that date the exchange to AT&T took place. Could someone please
>> tell me how to enter this transaction in Quicken 2006 and after making
>> the change will the cost basis be maintained so that it will be
>> available for future tax purposes?
>>
>> BellSouth Share Exchange
>> BellSouth shares 809.6203
>> Exchange Rate 1.325
>> AT&T Stock Credited 1,072.746898
>>
>> Thank you for any help.
>>
>> Katie
>
>

Posted by Sylvia on January 17, 2007, 9:56 pm
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I am using Quicken 2006 Deluxe.

Katie


>Eric:
>
>Companies issue and maintain records on fractional shares of stock.
>
>Quicken works quite well with fractional shares of stock.
>
>Except for those bits of misinformation, the procedure you describe is
>workable.
>
>Katie:
>
>If you follow the procedures described by Eric (but using fractional
>shares of course), you will have the correct number of ATT shares at the
>correct price. Check your figures with those which ATT will provide
>when you receive their paperwork.
>
>But, there are two things to be aware of.
>
>1) The exchange of SBC for ATT will be tax free, but Quicken will
>(incorrectly) report the sale of SBC as a capital gain, and
>
>2) Quicken will have an incorrect acquisition date for the asset. The
>acquisition date for the ATT shares should be the acquisition date of
>the original SBC shares, not the date the SBC shares were exchanged for
>ATT shares.
>
>Depending on the version of Quicken you have (Basic, Deluxe, etc., and
>Year), there may be better ways to record this transaction which will
>avoid these two problems.
>
>Eric Bloch wrote:
>> Except for mutual funds you cannot have fractional shares.
>>
>> 1. You must go back thru ALL of your Bellsouth (BS) transactions and
>> eliminate fractions. If they were caused by splits or dividends reinvested
>> you received a book entry for the shares including fractions and then the
>> fractions were immediately sold for a gain or loss which was long or short
>> depending on the original purchase date.
>>
>> 2. Now take the whole shares and, in Quicken, sell all of them on the date
>> of ATT purchase.
>>
>> 3. Use ALL of the funds received to purchase the 1.325 X (BS shares) of ATT.
>>
>> 4. If you now have fractions of ATT enter a sell transaction for the $$ you
>> received for them. For IRS the gain or loss goes back to the original date
>> of BS purchase but Quicken will think they were acquired on the day of
>> transfer. Same goes for when you finally sell the remaining ATT shares.
>>
>> Eric
>>
>>> On December 29, 2006 I was holding 809.6203 shares of BellSouth Stock.
>>> On that date the exchange to AT&T took place. Could someone please
>>> tell me how to enter this transaction in Quicken 2006 and after making
>>> the change will the cost basis be maintained so that it will be
>>> available for future tax purposes?
>>>
>>> BellSouth Share Exchange
>>> BellSouth shares 809.6203
>>> Exchange Rate 1.325
>>> AT&T Stock Credited 1,072.746898
>>>
>>> Thank you for any help.
>>>
>>> Katie
>>
>>

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