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Cash Dividend Not Entering Correctly Patrick 03-02-2008
Posted by Patrick on March 2, 2008, 8:24 pm
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Ok. i'm entering some entries in my stock transactions because I screwed
up my download (all my fault). Now I have several dividends that were paid
in 2001 and I'm trying to enter them all. This is before I started having
the company reinvest my dividends so I was entering all of these as Inv
transactions.

I entered my Money Account as a Inc and it upped my cash balance. I
entered an Intel dividend as Inc and it showed up as Inv Amt with N/A in
cash Amt and DID NOT up my cash balance. I entered a BancWest Dividend the
same exact way and it showed Inv amount .23 with Cash Amt +.23 and upped my
cash balance.

I decided to enter another transaction just like it and it worked fine for
BancWest. So I changed the amount, date, and security on that transaction
to the intel date, amount, etc and it still showed up fine.

I entered one for Xerox and it showed up just like the Intel... .59 in Inv
amt, N/A in cash amount, and not affect to the cash balance. These are all
Inv. I did not use reinvest the dividend.

Please note if it helps: All transactions, correct and incorrect, show
_DivInc in the description. I can't see any difference in any of these
except for how it's updating the cash account. Where am I going wrong?

Posted by Patrick Butts on March 2, 2008, 8:34 pm
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And because I can already hear Mr. Pollard chiding me for not including the
version, it's Quicken 2008 Premier. Sorry.. forgot that.

Posted by John Pollard on March 3, 2008, 8:26 pm
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Patrick wrote:
> Ok. i'm entering some entries in my stock transactions
> because I
> screwed up my download (all my fault). Now I have several
> dividends
> that were paid in 2001 and I'm trying to enter them all. This
> is
> before I started having the company reinvest my dividends so I
> was
> entering all of these as Inv transactions.
>
> I entered my Money Account as a Inc and it upped my cash
> balance. I
> entered an Intel dividend as Inc and it showed up as Inv Amt
> with N/A
> in cash Amt and DID NOT up my cash balance. I entered a
> BancWest
> Dividend the same exact way and it showed Inv amount .23 with
> Cash
> Amt +.23 and upped my cash balance.
>
> I decided to enter another transaction just like it and it
> worked
> fine for BancWest. So I changed the amount, date, and
> security on
> that transaction to the intel date, amount, etc and it still
> showed
> up fine.
>
> I entered one for Xerox and it showed up just like the
> Intel... .59
> in Inv amt, N/A in cash amount, and not affect to the cash
> balance.
> These are all Inv. I did not use reinvest the dividend.
>
> Please note if it helps: All transactions, correct and
> incorrect,
> show _DivInc in the description. I can't see any difference
> in any
> of these except for how it's updating the cash account. Where
> am I
> going wrong?

Good to know the version (Q2008). :)

Read up on "placeholders" (they are "Adjust Share Balance"
transactions). Placeholders are almost always the cause of
"N/A" in the cash amount. There is a LOT of information about
placeholders in Quicken Help, this newsgroup, and the Quicken
Forums.

To find the placeholders in your investment accounts (in
versions later than Q2005), modify your preferences:

Edit > Preferences > Quicken Program > Investment Transactions

Put a check in the box to "Show hidden transactions".

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John Pollard
First initial underscore Last name at mchsi dot com
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Posted by Patrick Butts on March 4, 2008, 10:46 pm
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On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 19:26:51 -0600, John Pollard wrote:

> Patrick wrote:
>> Ok. i'm entering some entries in my stock transactions
>> because I
>> screwed up my download (all my fault). Now I have several
>> dividends
>> that were paid in 2001 and I'm trying to enter them all. This
>> is
>> before I started having the company reinvest my dividends so I
>> was
>> entering all of these as Inv transactions.
>>
>> I entered my Money Account as a Inc and it upped my cash
>> balance. I
>> entered an Intel dividend as Inc and it showed up as Inv Amt
>> with N/A
>> in cash Amt and DID NOT up my cash balance. I entered a
>> BancWest
>> Dividend the same exact way and it showed Inv amount .23 with
>> Cash
>> Amt +.23 and upped my cash balance.
>>
>> I decided to enter another transaction just like it and it
>> worked
>> fine for BancWest. So I changed the amount, date, and
>> security on
>> that transaction to the intel date, amount, etc and it still
>> showed
>> up fine.
>>
>> I entered one for Xerox and it showed up just like the
>> Intel... .59
>> in Inv amt, N/A in cash amount, and not affect to the cash
>> balance.
>> These are all Inv. I did not use reinvest the dividend.
>>
>> Please note if it helps: All transactions, correct and
>> incorrect,
>> show _DivInc in the description. I can't see any difference
>> in any
>> of these except for how it's updating the cash account. Where
>> am I
>> going wrong?
>
> Good to know the version (Q2008). :)
>
> Read up on "placeholders" (they are "Adjust Share Balance"
> transactions). Placeholders are almost always the cause of
> "N/A" in the cash amount. There is a LOT of information about
> placeholders in Quicken Help, this newsgroup, and the Quicken
> Forums.
>
> To find the placeholders in your investment accounts (in
> versions later than Q2005), modify your preferences:
>
> Edit > Preferences > Quicken Program > Investment Transactions
>
> Put a check in the box to "Show hidden transactions".

I'm not really sure if that was the problem or not. I did have some
placeholders but after I finished they are gone. I will add a few fake
transactions to see if the problem went away. Just not tonight. I'm
tired. Just wanted to reply as it's the polite thing to do. Thanks for
your advice John.

Posted by John Pollard on March 5, 2008, 9:42 am
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Patrick Butts wrote:
> On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 19:26:51 -0600, John Pollard wrote:
>
>> Patrick wrote:
>>> Ok. i'm entering some entries in my stock transactions
>>> because I
>>> screwed up my download (all my fault). Now I have several
>>> dividends
>>> that were paid in 2001 and I'm trying to enter them all.
>>> This
>>> is
>>> before I started having the company reinvest my dividends so
>>> I
>>> was
>>> entering all of these as Inv transactions.
>>>
>>> I entered my Money Account as a Inc and it upped my cash
>>> balance. I
>>> entered an Intel dividend as Inc and it showed up as Inv Amt
>>> with N/A
>>> in cash Amt and DID NOT up my cash balance. I entered a
>>> BancWest
>>> Dividend the same exact way and it showed Inv amount .23
>>> with
>>> Cash
>>> Amt +.23 and upped my cash balance.
>>>
>>> I decided to enter another transaction just like it and it
>>> worked
>>> fine for BancWest. So I changed the amount, date, and
>>> security on
>>> that transaction to the intel date, amount, etc and it still
>>> showed
>>> up fine.
>>>
>>> I entered one for Xerox and it showed up just like the
>>> Intel... .59
>>> in Inv amt, N/A in cash amount, and not affect to the cash
>>> balance.
>>> These are all Inv. I did not use reinvest the dividend.
>>>
>>> Please note if it helps: All transactions, correct and
>>> incorrect,
>>> show _DivInc in the description. I can't see any difference
>>> in any
>>> of these except for how it's updating the cash account.
>>> Where
>>> am I
>>> going wrong?
>>
>> Good to know the version (Q2008). :)
>>
>> Read up on "placeholders" (they are "Adjust Share Balance"
>> transactions). Placeholders are almost always the cause of
>> "N/A" in the cash amount. There is a LOT of information
>> about
>> placeholders in Quicken Help, this newsgroup, and the Quicken
>> Forums.
>>
>> To find the placeholders in your investment accounts (in
>> versions later than Q2005), modify your preferences:
>>
>> Edit > Preferences > Quicken Program > Investment
>> Transactions
>>
>> Put a check in the box to "Show hidden transactions".

> I'm not really sure if that was the problem or not. I did
> have some
> placeholders but after I finished they are gone.

Placeholders are never quite "gone" (unless you delete them):
they become "hidden" if you have entered actual transactions
that cause you to hold the same number of shares specified in
the placeholder (as of the date of the placeholder). That's why
the box to show hidden (investment) transactions is so valuable;
it forces placeholders to always be visible.

[Placeholders will have an "Action" value of "Entry".]

> I will add a few
> fake transactions to see if the problem went away.

This was necessary prior to Q2006; but see above for a better
approach, after Q2005.

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John Pollard
First initial underscore Last name at mchsi dot com
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