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Categories, Classes, etc. Jerry Baker 04-24-2006
Posted by Jerry Baker on April 24, 2006, 8:08 pm
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I think I asked this a long time ago, but I forgot the answer.

I like to track where my money goes in pretty fine detail. When I buy
gas I break it out with state and federal fuel taxes as well as sales
tax. I currently do this with classes, but it makes it difficult to run
a report that contains only the tax and not the whole transaction
amount. In addition, the built-in graphs and stuff don't show these
classes as part of the "Tax" category. I thought I would remedy this by
making some sub-categories of "Tax" to track all of this. That works
fine for the reports when I want to look at taxes, but then it excludes
that amount from the purchase.

An example will probably make this a lot easier to explain. If I spent
$1.07 at a store for a soft drink and recorded the transaction with a
split like this:

McDonald's
Dining $0.99
Dining/sales tax $0.08

I am able to track the sales tax somewhat in reports, but it's
difficult, and the taxes don't show up in the built-in reports. If I
enter it like this:

McDonald's
Dining $0.99
Dining/Tax:sales tax $0.08

Then the tax still does not show up in any of the built-in reports or
graphs.

If I do this:
McDonald's
Dining $0.99
Tax:sales tax $0.08

Then all of my reports don't show the 8 cents under dining. This creates
problems for budgeting.

Is there anyway to keep track of sales tax so that it shows up on the
built-in reports and graphs under taxes, and so that cash flow reports
will report the full $1.07 as a "Dining" category?

Posted by Andrew on April 24, 2006, 9:38 pm
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Jerry Baker wrote:
>
> I like to track where my money goes in pretty fine detail. ...
> McDonald's
> Dining $0.99
> Dining/sales tax $0.08

Jerry - I just got to ask, WHY do you care about this? Can this possibly
affect any decisions you make, or is the tracking (in this case) of dining
sales tax have ANY bearing on your financial life whatsoever? Is there ANY
practical reason (like refunds of sales tax, perhaps?) that this matters?

I just am curious why you'd go to all this trouble when I don't see how it
could possibly provide any practical (or impractical, for that matter!)
benefit.

Of course, I too, am anal to a degree - so if your answer truly is "because
I like to" and that's that, absolutely ok! I just am curious if I'm missing
something.
No one can ever criticize others as to what they like to do, so don't take
my question in that regard as any sort of criticism...just pure curiosity!

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Regards -

- Andrew



Posted by Stubby on April 25, 2006, 7:41 am
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Andrew wrote:
> Jerry Baker wrote:
>> I like to track where my money goes in pretty fine detail. ...
>> McDonald's
>> Dining $0.99
>> Dining/sales tax $0.08
>
> Jerry - I just got to ask, WHY do you care about this? Can this possibly
> affect any decisions you make, or is the tracking (in this case) of dining
> sales tax have ANY bearing on your financial life whatsoever? Is there ANY
> practical reason (like refunds of sales tax, perhaps?) that this matters?
>
> I just am curious why you'd go to all this trouble when I don't see how it
> could possibly provide any practical (or impractical, for that matter!)
> benefit.
>
> Of course, I too, am anal to a degree - so if your answer truly is "because
> I like to" and that's that, absolutely ok! I just am curious if I'm missing
> something.
> No one can ever criticize others as to what they like to do, so don't take
> my question in that regard as any sort of criticism...just pure curiosity!
>
Right. It's unlikely that deducting the sales tax on all purchases will
exceed the 2% requirement or even the personal deduction.

Posted by Randy Stevens on April 26, 2006, 6:24 pm
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Jerry,

I track all sales taxes in case I can get the sales tax deduction now
provided on the Federal return. I just use a single category "Tax:Sales
Tax" and record transactions as splits to break out the sales tax. Of
course, the category has the correct tax line assignment so it imports
nicely into TurboTax.

I agree with some of the other responses, what you want to do does seem like
a bit of overkill. However, to each his own! Here's what you can do.

I believe you want to use categories instead of classes. For each category
that you want to track sales tax, create a sub-category. For example, if
you have a "Dining" category, create a "Dining:Sales Tax" sub-category. For
each of your new Sales Tax sub-categories, provide the correct tax line
assignment; specifically, "Schedule A:Sales Tax Paid". You will be creating
a lot of sales tax sub-categories.

Now, when you run an expense report, your dining expenses will be broken out
into "Dining" and "Dining:Sales Tax".

To determine the total amount of Sales Tax, run one of the built-in Tax
reports such as "Schedule A-Itemized Deductions", "Tax Schedule", or "Tax
Summary".

I hope this helps.

Randy Stevens


>I think I asked this a long time ago, but I forgot the answer.
>
> I like to track where my money goes in pretty fine detail. When I buy gas
> I break it out with state and federal fuel taxes as well as sales tax. I
> currently do this with classes, but it makes it difficult to run a report
> that contains only the tax and not the whole transaction amount. In
> addition, the built-in graphs and stuff don't show these classes as part
> of the "Tax" category. I thought I would remedy this by making some
> sub-categories of "Tax" to track all of this. That works fine for the
> reports when I want to look at taxes, but then it excludes that amount
> from the purchase.
>
> An example will probably make this a lot easier to explain. If I spent
> $1.07 at a store for a soft drink and recorded the transaction with a
> split like this:
>
> McDonald's
> Dining $0.99
> Dining/sales tax $0.08
>
> I am able to track the sales tax somewhat in reports, but it's difficult,
> and the taxes don't show up in the built-in reports. If I enter it like
> this:
>
> McDonald's
> Dining $0.99
> Dining/Tax:sales tax $0.08
>
> Then the tax still does not show up in any of the built-in reports or
> graphs.
>
> If I do this:
> McDonald's
> Dining $0.99
> Tax:sales tax $0.08
>
> Then all of my reports don't show the 8 cents under dining. This creates
> problems for budgeting.
>
> Is there anyway to keep track of sales tax so that it shows up on the
> built-in reports and graphs under taxes, and so that cash flow reports
> will report the full $1.07 as a "Dining" category?



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