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Controling One Step Update Bob L 02-05-2007
Posted by John Pollard on February 5, 2007, 11:28 pm
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Bob L wrote:
>> Bob L wrote:
>>>> Bob L wrote:
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Bob L wrote:
>> Bob L wrote:
>>>> Bob L wrote:
>>>>> I recently activated One Step Update for an investment
>>>>> account in which I hold several securities which pay
>>>>> dividends but do not change in value. Now, every time
>>>>> I do a One Sept Update, Quicken updates the price for
>>>>> each of those securities.
>>>>> I'm made sure that those securities don't have stock
>>>>> symbols and that they are not selected for quote
>>>>> downloads.
>>>>> Is there a way that I can turn off price download for
>>>>> these securities?

>>>> I think those prices are coming from your financial
>>>> institution, and I doubt you can stop them.
>>>>
>>>> But I'm not clear what your concern is: are you worried
>>>> about too many prices in the price history, or ...? I
>>>> am now getting my Smith Barney money market fund's
>>>> price updated every day despite the fact that it is
>>>> always $1/share - and Quicken price downloads don't
>>>> update money market fund prices, so they have to be
>>>> coming from Smith Barney downloaded holdings. I will
>>>> probably remove most of those prices when I get a
>>>> round tuit, but I don't know any way to prevent them
>>>> from coming.

>>> My concern is that for one of the securities that
>>> changes only monthly, I've entered the price (which I
>>> calculate) and kept the number of shares constant. The
>>> financial institution keeps the price at $1/shr and
>>> changes the number of shares each month. Not a big
>>> deal really since I've only had this investment for
>>> maybe 3 years but I'll have to re-enter the price data
>>> to make it work the way is will be downloaded. If
>>> there were a way I could stop the updates on this
>>> security, I'd do it.

>> I don't have any good ideas at the moment. But I'm
>> curious: are you saying that you have already entered a
>> price in your price history, then your download changes
>> the price you entered? How are you entering your price?

> I've been entering data for this account manually for
> several years and only tried online downloads this past
> weekend. For the security in question which is repriced
> monthly, I originally entered it as though the number of
> shares remained fixed and the price changed. The
> brokerage firm lists it as the price fixed at $1 and
> resets the number of shares. When I update online of
> course the price downloads as $1 and the number of shares
> varies.
> Since the security is only repriced once a month, I'd
> rather continue manually enter the data.

I was trying to get at the specific steps you took to cause a
price to be entered in your price history. Did you enter a
transaction in the account? Did you edit the price history
directly? And did you enter the price with the same date that
the download used?

I am trying to figure out why the download would change a price
you entered. My recolletion is that usually only happens if
your price came from a transaction you entered, not if you
updated your price directly in the price history. (And it's
possible that price updates from downloaded fi holdings do not
follow the same rules.)

What version of Quicken are you using?

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Posted by Bob L on February 6, 2007, 11:33 am
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> Bob L wrote:
>>> Bob L wrote:
>>>>> Bob L wrote:
>>>>>> I recently activated One Step Update for an investment
>>>>>> account in which I hold several securities which pay
>>>>>> dividends but do not change in value. Now, every time
>>>>>> I do a One Sept Update, Quicken updates the price for
>>>>>> each of those securities.
>>>>>> I'm made sure that those securities don't have stock
>>>>>> symbols and that they are not selected for quote
>>>>>> downloads.
>>>>>> Is there a way that I can turn off price download for
>>>>>> these securities?
>
>>>>> I think those prices are coming from your financial
>>>>> institution, and I doubt you can stop them.
>>>>>
>>>>> But I'm not clear what your concern is: are you worried
>>>>> about too many prices in the price history, or ...? I
>>>>> am now getting my Smith Barney money market fund's
>>>>> price updated every day despite the fact that it is
>>>>> always $1/share - and Quicken price downloads don't
>>>>> update money market fund prices, so they have to be
>>>>> coming from Smith Barney downloaded holdings. I will
>>>>> probably remove most of those prices when I get a
>>>>> round tuit, but I don't know any way to prevent them
>>>>> from coming.
>
>>>> My concern is that for one of the securities that
>>>> changes only monthly, I've entered the price (which I
>>>> calculate) and kept the number of shares constant. The
>>>> financial institution keeps the price at $1/shr and
>>>> changes the number of shares each month. Not a big
>>>> deal really since I've only had this investment for
>>>> maybe 3 years but I'll have to re-enter the price data
>>>> to make it work the way is will be downloaded. If
>>>> there were a way I could stop the updates on this
>>>> security, I'd do it.
>
>>> I don't have any good ideas at the moment. But I'm
>>> curious: are you saying that you have already entered a
>>> price in your price history, then your download changes
>>> the price you entered? How are you entering your price?
>
>> I've been entering data for this account manually for
>> several years and only tried online downloads this past
>> weekend. For the security in question which is repriced
>> monthly, I originally entered it as though the number of
>> shares remained fixed and the price changed. The
>> brokerage firm lists it as the price fixed at $1 and
>> resets the number of shares. When I update online of
>> course the price downloads as $1 and the number of shares
>> varies.
>> Since the security is only repriced once a month, I'd
>> rather continue manually enter the data.
>
> I was trying to get at the specific steps you took to cause a
> price to be entered in your price history. Did you enter a
> transaction in the account? Did you edit the price history
> directly? And did you enter the price with the same date that
> the download used?
>
> I am trying to figure out why the download would change a price
> you entered. My recolletion is that usually only happens if
> your price came from a transaction you entered, not if you
> updated your price directly in the price history. (And it's
> possible that price updates from downloaded fi holdings do not
> follow the same rules.)
>
> What version of Quicken are you using?
>

I calculate the price the security would be given the number of shares I
originally bought and the current value. I'm using Q2007 Premier.



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