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Credit Acc't Reconcile, No Opportunity to Transfer Payment to Bank Acc't jimlarkey 04-16-2008
Posted by jimlarkey on April 23, 2008, 11:03 am
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Just a follow up that the copy process screwed up my bank acc't reconcile
balance by over $10K which appeared on the post-copy reconcile cycle.
Adjustments were made to get the acc't in balance, but that will also screw
up future reports on spending patterns, which will of course have to be
manually adjusted.

I will follow up on whether the copy transactions really did restore the
dialog, and left the credit acc't balance OK.

Cheers,
Jim

Bob Wang wrote:
> Jim:
<snip>
> What I would do is to make a copy of your current Quicken file.
> Try creating a new credit card account on the copy of your file, and
> see if the dialog box pops up.
>
> Maybe others will have a better suggestion.
> Good Luck!
> Bob
>
>>>>
> Anyone??? Sorry if I wasn't clear with the words, but example from
> another acc't of missing dialog box view at
> http://www.pbase.com/image/95783255.jpg
>
> Any thoughts on how I can bring back this dialog box on the one acc't?
>
> Cheers,
> Jim



Posted by John Pollard on April 23, 2008, 1:35 pm
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jimlarkey wrote:
> Just a follow up that the copy process screwed up my bank
> acc't
> reconcile balance by over $10K which appeared on the post-copy
> reconcile cycle. Adjustments were made to get the acc't in
> balance,
> but that will also screw up future reports on spending
> patterns,
> which will of course have to be manually adjusted.

I don't think any "adjustments" should have been necessary (and
to me, it makes no sense to "reconcile" and enter adjustments).

When the transfers from the checking account to the old credit
card account were deleted (when the old credit card account was
deleted), the old reconciled checking account transfer
transactions were deleted.

When the transactions were copied from the old credit card
account to the new credit card account, Quicken would have
modified the transfer transactions to transfer from the checking
account to the new credit card account. That would have
introduced a bunch of new, unreconciled transactions into the
checking account.

But the total amount of deleted checking account transfers
should equal the total amount of the newly created checking
account transfers: net dollar amount for the account should have
been zero.

I think the only additional step that might have been necessary
was to use Find/Replace to change the "Clr" (Cleared Status)
field in the new checking account transfer transactions to "R"
(for reconciled). Your beginning reconcile balance should be
the total of previously reconciled transactiions; making sure
the newly created checking account transactions were reconciled
should have produced a correct beginning reconcile balance.

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John Pollard
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Posted by jimlarkey on April 23, 2008, 4:11 pm
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Thanks John,
I agree that copying and deleting shouldn't make any difference
mathematically, but it did for some unknown reason. However, your post
encouraged me to go back and do a MOVE transaction(s) rather than copy &
delete, on over 600 line items. Amazingly, it worked out OK....perfectly
reconciled to the penny.

One thing I did notice is that after the "move" transactions, all tranfer
payments were still marked "R" (reconciled), but the dialog that I had to
confirm on each of the 600 line entries indicated that the tranfer payment
would be deleted. Yet the tranfer payment appeared in both acc'ts (credit &
bank), and as reconciled "R".

However when I reconciled the bank acc't, the transfer payments popped up as
unreconciled. I proceeded to check-mark them in the reconcile dialog, and
in the end, everything worked out to the penny.

So thanks John for your post and information. I still have to wait a few
weeks for the credit acc't statement and reconcile, so I'll see what new
horizons I explore at that time. But for now, no problem! Thanks for being
there.

Cheers,
Jim

John Pollard wrote:
>
> I don't think any "adjustments" should have been necessary (and
> to me, it makes no sense to "reconcile" and enter adjustments).
>
> When the transfers from the checking account to the old credit
> card account were deleted (when the old credit card account was
> deleted), the old reconciled checking account transfer
> transactions were deleted.
>
> When the transactions were copied from the old credit card
> account to the new credit card account, Quicken would have
> modified the transfer transactions to transfer from the checking
> account to the new credit card account. That would have
> introduced a bunch of new, unreconciled transactions into the
> checking account.
>
> But the total amount of deleted checking account transfers
> should equal the total amount of the newly created checking
> account transfers: net dollar amount for the account should have
> been zero.
>
> I think the only additional step that might have been necessary
> was to use Find/Replace to change the "Clr" (Cleared Status)
> field in the new checking account transfer transactions to "R"
> (for reconciled). Your beginning reconcile balance should be
> the total of previously reconciled transactiions; making sure
> the newly created checking account transactions were reconciled
> should have produced a correct beginning reconcile balance.



Posted by jimlarkey on April 18, 2008, 3:33 pm
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Anyone??? Sorry if I wasn't clear with the words, but example from another
acc't of missing dialog box view at
http://www.pbase.com/image/95783255.jpg

Any thoughts on how I can bring back this dialog box on the one acc't?

Cheers,
Jim




Posted by jimlarkey on May 15, 2008, 10:27 am
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Just a short one to close this thread....the creation/deletion of
account restored the dialog that was missing. I must have accidentally
checked "do not show this again" in the previous reconcile.

Thanks to all who helped. Really appreciate you guys being there.

Cheers,
Jim


jimlarkey wrote:
> I have been for years, able to use the Quicken08 dialog to tranfer
> payment of my credit card acc't to my bank checking account, at the
> end of a successful reconcile session. For some reason, when I
> complete the reconcile, the session closes without the opportunity to
> tranfer payment to my bank acc't.
>
> I have another credit card account which does allow me to make the
> transfer payment. Any thoughts on how to bring back that closing
> dialog?
> The work around is I have to manually enter a transfer payment as a
> line entry. I prefer the dialog, as in my other credit card account.
>
> Thanks in advance.
> Cheers,
> Jim





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