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Posted by Jerry Boyle on June 28, 2008, 11:37 am
Please log in for more thread options Hi RC,
You bring up an issue that Toyman didn't raise and that neither Michael
(thanks for the reference!) nor I addressed, namely file sharing.
The issue is particularly insidious for those who upgrade from Windows XP to
Vista with their Quicken data in C:Program FilesQuicken. Quicken appears
to work for multiple Users; but none can see the others' changes because
Vista Virtualization makes cloned copies of the Quicken DB behind every
user's back.
Moving the data to the DocumentsQuicken folder doesn't work either since
each user has their own Documents folder; the same applies to Desktop.
Putting the Quicken data on a separate drive or drive partition that is
shared by all Vista users is one solutuon. I'd probably just use a USB thumb
drive, which gives you both sharing and portability albeit with a
performance loss..
Another solution is using a shared folder. I think it was called Shared
Documents in XP but I believe it's Public Documents in Vista. Microsoft
seems to change their file sharing model with each new OS. If the issue
hasn't already been addressed in this NG,
microsoft.public.windows.vista.file_management might be a good place to go
for an answer.
Jerry
> Hi, Toyman.
>
> I see that Jerry has answered you here in the Quicken group and Michael in
> the microsoft.public.windows.vista.file_management newsgroup. I started
> drafting a reply this morning, but suffered a mysterious computer hang and
> had to Reset, losing the draft.
>
> Jerry and Michael have given you the right answers: Vista insists on
> earlier Windows only "required", that DATA be kept out of C:Program
> Files, reserving that folder only for the application files.
>
> In my case, I got around that requirement - unintentionally - just by
> evolution from several Quicken generations ago.
>
> Back when I started dual-booting Win98/NT4, I wanted to be able to run a
> single copy of Quicken from both OSes, accessing a single .qdf database.
> So I put Win98 on C: and WinNT4 on D: and Quicken on E:. I first booted
> into Win98 and installed Quicken so that Win98 could make all its Registry
> entries on C:. Then I rebooted into WinNT4 and installed Quicken - again
> into E: - so that NT could make its Registry entries on D:. I could make
> entries in Win98 in the morning and see them in a report in WinNT in the
> afternoon. The system worked well and I've been installing Quicken into
> E:QuickenW (the "W" is a holdover from when Intuit needed to distinguish
> it from the DOS version) ever since. I seldom boot anything but Vista
> Ultimate x64 now, but I can boot into Vista x86 or WinXP x64 if I want to
> and run the program from E:QuickenW. ;<)
>
> Yes, my .qdf database files (and the automatic BACKUP folder) are in
> E:QuickenW along with the program files. I agree with those who say
> that's poor organization, but it has been working well for me for at least
> 10 years and I'll probably keep doing it that way.
>
> In other words, there is nothing in my C:Program Files about Quicken.
> (Or in C:Program Files (x86), the location for 32-bit applications in a
> 64-bit WinXP or Vista installation.) There are some things in
> C:UsersRCAppDataRoamingIntuitQuicken, but they are only some
> metadata (reminders, logs and such), not my financial files.
>
> I don't necessarily recommend this arrangement for others, but it works
> for me.
>
> RC
> --
> R. C. White, CPA
> San Marcos, TX
> (Retired. No longer licensed to practice public accounting.)
> rc@grandecom.net
> Microsoft Windows MVP
> (Currently running Quicken 2008 Deluxe in Vista Ultimate x64 SP1)
>
>> I've installed Quicken 2008 on a Vista O/S. After converting old data
>> from Q, 2005, I looked for the QDF files - just to know where they were.
>> I looked in C:Program FilesQuicken ( and other Q sub-folders), but
>> never found them. After some head-scratching, I finally found them in
>> C:UsersUsernameAppDataLocalVirtualStoreProgram FilesQuicken,
>> along with other Q files, and other Q folders.
>>
>> I wanted the primary file (Qdata.qdf) in the Quicken folder (C:Program
>> FilesQuicken), and tried to copy it there from the Virtual folder.
>> Strangely enough, the copy function seemed to work ("one file copied"),
>> but the file never showed up there (multiple attempts). I WAS able to
>> get the file copied by creating a Backup location on the desktop, saving
>> the file (Ctrl+B) there, and then copying the Backup file to a new folder
>> on the Desktop. From that point I was able to tell Q to open the file on
>> the Desktop as primary Qdata.qdf.
>>
>> Incidentally, I have the same problem with the QBackup folder. I was
>> able to create a folder in C:Program FilesQuicken, but the Backup
>> function (Ctrl+B) won't save a file to it. The Backup copy is also in
>> the Virtual folder).
>>
>> This lack of control of the file has me uncomfortable. Does anyone have
>> any idea about:
>> 1) why the Qdata.qdf and Backup files won't copy to C:Program
>> FilesQuicken?
>> 2) Why are the files being stored in the Virtual folder?
>> 3) Is there a work-around?
>>
>> Toyman
>
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