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Does Intuit/Quicken really have us over a barrel charly@earthlink.net 02-14-2008
Posted by sharx35 on February 19, 2008, 1:14 am
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> PortStG@nospam.invalid wrote:
>> On 14 Feb 08 wrote:
>>> Quicken is discontinuing support and functionality for Quicken 2005. Is
>>> there any other program that can read Quicken files (I don't want to
>>> loose existing work) and can download account information from banks and
>>> credit card companies?
>>
>> Sorry, I can't answer your question(s). But I have one of my own.
>> Am I the only Quicken user that prefers to NOT download their
>> Bank/Broker/CC data? I mean, by doing that, don't you eliminate the
>> whole point of the "Reconcile" function? I like to know my
>> bank/broker/CC hasn't screwed up and reconciling my account(s) each
>> month is the way I do that. It only takes a minute. And please don't
>> tell me they don't make mistakes. The reason I know they screw up is
>> because I *don't* just download their numbers without reconciling them
>> to mine.
>> Or maybe I'm missing something?
>>
>> Port
>>
>
> I download all of my accounts, and examine each transaction when it is
> downloaded. That is the way the download function works. The transactions
> appear in a smaller window below the register window. You can accept them
> all or each one individually, or you can edit them if needed.
>
> This lets me catch potential problems quicker. It adds insurance that if
> someone stole a credit card number, I'd be aware of it very quickly. It
> let me catch a double charge to my credit card by my dentists office on
> the day after it occurred. It also prevents typographical errors which
> used to account for almost all of the lost time during reconciliation. In
> addition, it keeps me informed of dividends, splits, and any other
> transactions that I didn't initiate.
>
> I also reconcile my accounts when the statement arrives. All of my
> accounts download in less than 3 minutes a day. Reconciliation which used
> to occasionally be painful usually takes two minutes or less.
>
> I've been using financial software since MYM in the late 80's. I think it
> was about $150.00 at the time. I've done manual entry, and my finances
> were a lot simpler then. With the addition of investment accounts, IRA's,
> and multiple bank accounts, I'd definitely not want to go back to manual
> entry.
>
> ---
> Jim

I have ONE joint checking account. No need for any more. When my wife and I
married, we also "married" all of our assets..no need to obsessively keep
everything separate.





Posted by JimH on February 19, 2008, 1:05 pm
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sharx35 wrote:

> I have ONE joint checking account. No need for any more. When my wife and I
> married, we also "married" all of our assets..no need to obsessively keep
> everything separate.
>

I never said we kept things separate. I'm not obsessive about anything
except exercise and pizza. :-)

We have been married for 32 years. We're looking forward to 32 more. All
of our accounts are joint accounts except IRA's which must be kept separate.

We have accounts other than checking and savings.

---
Jim

Posted by Stubby on February 19, 2008, 4:54 pm
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> sharx35 wrote:
>
> > I have ONE joint checking account. No need for any more. When my wife
and I
> > married, we also "married" all of our assets..no need to obsessively
keep
> > everything separate.
...
Good. A "marriage" is really a melding of financial estates. If you
don't like that, you can get a lawyer to draw up an agreement that excludes
specific items from the marriage contract. You'll figure that all out if
you get divorced!



Posted by sharx35 on February 20, 2008, 12:03 am
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>> sharx35 wrote:
>>
>> > I have ONE joint checking account. No need for any more. When my wife
> and I
>> > married, we also "married" all of our assets..no need to obsessively
> keep
>> > everything separate.
> ...
> Good. A "marriage" is really a melding of financial estates. If you
> don't like that, you can get a lawyer to draw up an agreement that
> excludes
> specific items from the marriage contract. You'll figure that all out if
> you get divorced!
>
>

Incredibly, I hear some of my income tax clients arguing about who paid for
what..as if it matters. Hell, all of our family's income goes into ONE joint
account before being allocated to various bills, etc..




Posted by sharx35 on February 20, 2008, 12:02 am
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> sharx35 wrote:
>
>> I have ONE joint checking account. No need for any more. When my wife and
>> I married, we also "married" all of our assets..no need to obsessively
>> keep everything separate.
>>
>
> I never said we kept things separate. I'm not obsessive about anything
> except exercise and pizza. :-)

Pizza is the important thing here. Deep dish? Thick crust? Thin?


>
> We have been married for 32 years. We're looking forward to 32 more. All
> of our accounts are joint accounts except IRA's which must be kept
> separate.
>
> We have accounts other than checking and savings.
>
> ---
> Jim




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