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Duplicates QGuy 03-02-2007
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Posted by QGuy on March 2, 2007, 11:50 pm
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It's funny that by 2007 and all these years of software tweaking, that
simple record-keeping still evades Quicken.

I just updated my accounts by going online and using Quicken's
'update' feature.

In my checking account I manually accepted a deposit.
Then I see on my Home view, that this same Payee, same amount etc. is
OVERDUE!!!

Obviously more tweaking is still needed by Intuit.

In the meantime what do I do with this overdue entry? Delete it, leave
it ???

In another account, I have an entry where it says 'Enter cost' in the
Inv. Amt column. I don't have a clue what I should do here.
I sold 4000 money market shares.

TIA ric

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Posted by Han on March 3, 2007, 7:06 am
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I feel your pain. However, it is caused by the undisputible fact that
you are not following the thought processes of Quicken's programmers. I
have that problem with almost all software programs. What you need to
accept is that they followed their concepts of how things should be done,
and they apparently did not know how you would like to do things. After
several decades Intuit is still struggling with education of customers
and programmers. You want to get accepted into the collective? Think
like "them"! <grin>.


> It's funny that by 2007 and all these years of software tweaking, that
> simple record-keeping still evades Quicken.

I am posing the hypothesis of PEBCAK (acronymfinder.com)

> I just updated my accounts by going online and using Quicken's
> 'update' feature.

That is very good. It works as advertised, just like email. It uses a
record inside a Quicken file to determine which transactions have already
been downloaded, then "goes out" and retrieves what your bank/whatever FI
says is new, in the format they (the bank) provide. Then the trouble
starts. FI sometimes have very stupid ways of presenting the
information: The payee field will say debit, maybe (just maybe) the memo
says from/for whom this debit is. The amount maybe + or -, just the way
the FI feels.

As with junk email, it is up to you the user to "train" Quicken to
decipher the FI codes. This gets even more complicated if you have
already entered a transaction into Quicken, and the program has to figure
out that Jim Smith is the same as Plumber Smith.

Downloading a bunch of transactions, then hitting accept all WILL lead to
mistakes. You need to do this one by one for best results.

> In my checking account I manually accepted a deposit.
> Then I see on my Home view, that this same Payee, same amount etc. is
> OVERDUE!!!

Because you entered a reminder or whatever and have failed to make it
appear in the register and to match it to the downloaded transaction.
Remember PEBCAK?

> Obviously more tweaking is still needed by Intuit.

Or you should try to follow their thoughts. Believe me, in the end it is
easier!

> In the meantime what do I do with this overdue entry? Delete it, leave
> it ???

What do you do with 2 sticky notes on your desk reminding you of the same
thing that you have already done?

> In another account, I have an entry where it says 'Enter cost' in the
> Inv. Amt column. I don't have a clue what I should do here.
> I sold 4000 money market shares.

I have no clue what you are talking about. Presumably you enterede at
some time transaction(s) for the purchase of 4000 sh of a MMF (usually
they are $1/each), or you accumulated them as dividends. Since MMF
shares are $1/each (usually) your coost would have been $4000, whether
purchased out right, or accumulated.

> TIA ric
>
All free advice guaranteed or triple your money back.

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Han
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Posted by QGuy on March 3, 2007, 5:32 pm
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>> It's funny that by 2007 and all these years of software tweaking, that
>> simple record-keeping still evades Quicken.
>
>I am posing the hypothesis of PEBCAK (acronymfinder.com)

Are you implying that it was possibly a user error? :)
Humbug!


>Downloading a bunch of transactions, then hitting accept all WILL lead to
>mistakes. You need to do this one by one for best results.

Well then if that's the case (my Quicken 2007 came without a printed
manual. I only read printed manuals) why the heck doesn't Intuit use
their 'INTelligence' and think about user 'Intuition'.

Like maybe when a user selects 'Accept all' (like I did) a balloon
pops up and says "I wouldn't do that if I were you, silly user! You
must first train Quicken, then Quicken will become smart and work like
you want it to!"

>
>> In my checking account I manually accepted a deposit.
>> Then I see on my Home view, that this same Payee, same amount etc. is
>> OVERDUE!!!
>
>Because you entered a reminder or whatever and have failed to make it
>appear in the register and to match it to the downloaded transaction.
>Remember PEBCAK?

OK, how do I do that?

>All free advice guaranteed or triple your money back.


Thanks for your help!

Ric

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Posted by QGuy on March 3, 2007, 5:37 pm
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>> In the meantime what do I do with this overdue entry? Delete it, leave
>> it ???
>
>What do you do with 2 sticky notes on your desk reminding you of the same
>thing that you have already done?


Really?

I was just about to delete the reminder now and a pop-up says:
"You are about to delete a scheduled transaction".

Now what the heck does that mean?
430 No such article

>> In the meantime what do I do with this overdue entry? Delete it, leave
>> it ???
>
>What do you do with 2 sticky notes on your desk reminding you of the same
>thing that you have already done?


Really?

I was just about to delete the reminder now and a pop-up says:
"You are about to delete a scheduled transaction".

Now what the heck does that mean?
It will delete just this transaction or ALL of the scheduled
transactions?

I love cryptic warnings.

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Posted by Han on March 3, 2007, 7:44 pm
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>
>
> I was just about to delete the reminder now and a pop-up says:
> "You are about to delete a scheduled transaction".
>
> Now what the heck does that mean?
> It will delete just this transaction or ALL of the scheduled
> transactions?
>
> I love cryptic warnings.
>
I believe it will just delete that transaction, not the whole series, but I
am not looking over your shoulder to see exactly what you are doing <grin>.
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