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- Help - adding New 401(K) Security not working in Q2006 Air Force Jayhawk 07-19-2006
Posted by Air Force Jayhawk on July 19, 2006, 3:39 am
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OK, I recently upgraded to Q2006. I just tried to add a new security
to my 401(k). It used to be easy in earlier versions. After much
searching, the help file said to "update 401(k) holdings" (which turns
out is a lot of effort and much more work than I need...I don't track
with statements, I track with the web page).

Anyway, when I reached a point where I could add a new security I did.
All it asked for was a name...the help file said it would prompt me
for the rest of the info... but it never did.

So after I finished the update I went to the account and tried to edit
the details, but the ticker block was grayed out. Without that, I
can't get price updates. Gotta have that.

What did I do wrong? I backed it up just before the update and
restored after it didn't work right, so I get to do it again,
correctly I hope.

Roscoe

Posted by John Pollard on July 19, 2006, 1:13 pm
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> OK, I recently upgraded to Q2006. I just tried to add a new
> security
> to my 401(k). It used to be easy in earlier versions. After
> much
> searching, the help file said to "update 401(k) holdings"
> (which turns
> out is a lot of effort and much more work than I need...I
> don't track
> with statements, I track with the web page).
>
> Anyway, when I reached a point where I could add a new
> security I did.
> All it asked for was a name...the help file said it would
> prompt me
> for the rest of the info... but it never did.
>
> So after I finished the update I went to the account and tried
> to edit
> the details, but the ticker block was grayed out. Without
> that, I
> can't get price updates. Gotta have that.
>
> What did I do wrong? I backed it up just before the update
> and
> restored after it didn't work right, so I get to do it again,
> correctly I hope.

What version did you convert from and how were your 401k
accounts defined there?

Unless there was some problem caused by the conversion, I don't
understand why you would have had to take the actions you took.

I don't understand why you took the "Update 401k holdings"
route; as far as I know, that is only useful if your fi does not
report share balances, and even then, probably not necessary.

I have managed a couple of 401k accounts for someone else, and I
have never used the Update Holdings wizard. "Adding" a "new"
security to a 401k account has never been any different for me
than "adding" a security to a non-401k account; I "Buy" it. If
the security does not already exist in the Security List,
Quicken offers to add it to the list during transaction entry,
and Quicken allows me to enter the ticker in the process of
adding the security to Quicken. But if I fail to enter a ticker
during this process (or if I get it wrong), I can just go to the
Security List, Edit the security, and assign it the correct
ticker.

--
John Pollard
First initial underscore Last name at mchsi dot com
Please reply to newsgroup



Posted by Roscoe on July 19, 2006, 6:32 pm
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John Pollard wrote:
> > OK, I recently upgraded to Q2006. I just tried to add a new
> > security
> > to my 401(k). It used to be easy in earlier versions. After
> > much
> > searching, the help file said to "update 401(k) holdings"
> > (which turns
> > out is a lot of effort and much more work than I need...I
> > don't track
> > with statements, I track with the web page).
> >
> > Anyway, when I reached a point where I could add a new
> > security I did.
> > All it asked for was a name...the help file said it would
> > prompt me
> > for the rest of the info... but it never did.
> >
> > So after I finished the update I went to the account and tried
> > to edit
> > the details, but the ticker block was grayed out. Without
> > that, I
> > can't get price updates. Gotta have that.
> >
> > What did I do wrong? I backed it up just before the update
> > and
> > restored after it didn't work right, so I get to do it again,
> > correctly I hope.
>
> What version did you convert from and how were your 401k
> accounts defined there?
>
> Unless there was some problem caused by the conversion, I don't
> understand why you would have had to take the actions you took.
>
> I don't understand why you took the "Update 401k holdings"
> route; as far as I know, that is only useful if your fi does not
> report share balances, and even then, probably not necessary.
>
> I have managed a couple of 401k accounts for someone else, and I
> have never used the Update Holdings wizard. "Adding" a "new"
> security to a 401k account has never been any different for me
> than "adding" a security to a non-401k account; I "Buy" it. If
> the security does not already exist in the Security List,
> Quicken offers to add it to the list during transaction entry,
> and Quicken allows me to enter the ticker in the process of
> adding the security to Quicken. But if I fail to enter a ticker
> during this process (or if I get it wrong), I can just go to the
> Security List, Edit the security, and assign it the correct
> ticker.
>
> --
> John Pollard
> First initial underscore Last name at mchsi dot com
> Please reply to newsgroup

Thanks for responding!

I converted from Q2003 where I originally built the 401(k) account. I
had several individually managed mutual funds before I started my
401(k) that were added easily enough. The 401(k) was a bit tougher as
each security was linked to that account with a single cash
balance...took a while to figure it out but once I did adding
securities was a snap. Now my fund manager has bought a yet new
security, the first after my "upgrade". Previously it was as simple as
finding a command "add new security" within the 401(k) account. I
could add the security and the ticker symbol at that time. As for
entering data, I have never bothered to download them but entered them
manually. Was never that hard.

With Q2006, the command to add a new security has either been removed
or very well hidden. The Q2006 help file said to "update 401(k)
holdings" (not my idea so no I don't understand that either), and yes,
it forced me to input all kinds of data that I could find online easily
enough (schwab.com), and then at some point it showed a complete list
of my securities and a button to add a new one. It asked for a
security name (only) and then pressed on. No other info was asked for.
At the completion of the update, it showed up in the list of
securities, but the box to add the ticker was inaccessible when I tried
to edit the security..

Please describe the method you alluded to about "buying" a security you
have not yet set up...I could not figure that one out


Posted by Air Force Jayhawk on July 19, 2006, 8:00 pm
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Well, that worked great! Thanks!

Roscoe


wrote:

>John Pollard wrote:
>> > OK, I recently upgraded to Q2006. I just tried to add a new
>> > security
>> > to my 401(k). It used to be easy in earlier versions. After
>> > much
>> > searching, the help file said to "update 401(k) holdings"
>> > (which turns
>> > out is a lot of effort and much more work than I need...I
>> > don't track
>> > with statements, I track with the web page).
>> >
>> > Anyway, when I reached a point where I could add a new
>> > security I did.
>> > All it asked for was a name...the help file said it would
>> > prompt me
>> > for the rest of the info... but it never did.
>> >
>> > So after I finished the update I went to the account and tried
>> > to edit
>> > the details, but the ticker block was grayed out. Without
>> > that, I
>> > can't get price updates. Gotta have that.
>> >
>> > What did I do wrong? I backed it up just before the update
>> > and
>> > restored after it didn't work right, so I get to do it again,
>> > correctly I hope.
>>
>> What version did you convert from and how were your 401k
>> accounts defined there?
>>
>> Unless there was some problem caused by the conversion, I don't
>> understand why you would have had to take the actions you took.
>>
>> I don't understand why you took the "Update 401k holdings"
>> route; as far as I know, that is only useful if your fi does not
>> report share balances, and even then, probably not necessary.
>>
>> I have managed a couple of 401k accounts for someone else, and I
>> have never used the Update Holdings wizard. "Adding" a "new"
>> security to a 401k account has never been any different for me
>> than "adding" a security to a non-401k account; I "Buy" it. If
>> the security does not already exist in the Security List,
>> Quicken offers to add it to the list during transaction entry,
>> and Quicken allows me to enter the ticker in the process of
>> adding the security to Quicken. But if I fail to enter a ticker
>> during this process (or if I get it wrong), I can just go to the
>> Security List, Edit the security, and assign it the correct
>> ticker.
>>
>> --
>> John Pollard
>> First initial underscore Last name at mchsi dot com
>> Please reply to newsgroup
>
>Thanks for responding!
>
>I converted from Q2003 where I originally built the 401(k) account. I
>had several individually managed mutual funds before I started my
>401(k) that were added easily enough. The 401(k) was a bit tougher as
>each security was linked to that account with a single cash
>balance...took a while to figure it out but once I did adding
>securities was a snap. Now my fund manager has bought a yet new
>security, the first after my "upgrade". Previously it was as simple as
>finding a command "add new security" within the 401(k) account. I
>could add the security and the ticker symbol at that time. As for
>entering data, I have never bothered to download them but entered them
>manually. Was never that hard.
>
>With Q2006, the command to add a new security has either been removed
>or very well hidden. The Q2006 help file said to "update 401(k)
>holdings" (not my idea so no I don't understand that either), and yes,
>it forced me to input all kinds of data that I could find online easily
>enough (schwab.com), and then at some point it showed a complete list
>of my securities and a button to add a new one. It asked for a
>security name (only) and then pressed on. No other info was asked for.
> At the completion of the update, it showed up in the list of
>securities, but the box to add the ticker was inaccessible when I tried
>to edit the security..
>
>Please describe the method you alluded to about "buying" a security you
>have not yet set up...I could not figure that one out


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