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Help - transction transfer problem in Q'06 Nope 02-08-2007
Posted by Nope on February 8, 2007, 1:23 am
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Just opened a new investment account that takes the money directly
from my bank. Bank Transaction downloaded. So, I created a new
investment account with the security. Then, I tried to show a
transfer in Q'06 from my bank to the investment account. I got the
following error message:

"Cannot record transfer. You do not have a position in the
destination account"

No error code, no help button, nothing. Did I do something wrong when
I created the account?

Thanks for any help you can provide!

Roscoe

Posted by Nope on February 8, 2007, 2:03 am
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wrote:

Found the problem Bug in Q. Seems you have to own something,
anything in the account before you can transfer anything in. So I
created a shares in transaction, then transfered in the real one, then
deleted the fake one. Traansfered in a second transaction to make
sure. Works fine.

Man, what a waste of time...

These guys are like MS...spend more time adding features than fixing
old bugs.

Posted by John Pollard on February 8, 2007, 9:15 am
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Nope wrote:
> Nope wrote:
>
> Found the problem Bug in Q. Seems you have to own
> something, anything in the account before you can
> transfer anything in. So I created a shares in
> transaction, then transfered in the real one, then
> deleted the fake one. Traansfered in a second
> transaction to make sure. Works fine.
>
> Man, what a waste of time...
>
> These guys are like MS...spend more time adding features
> than fixing old bugs.

I hate to rain on your rant, but it's not a bug.

The only investment account you have to establish a postion in
before transferring cash to it is a Single Mutual Fund account.

And the reason you have to establish a postion in a Single
Mutual Fund account before you can initiate a transfer of cash
to it from another account, is because a Single Mutual Fund
account can not hold any cash; so any transfer of cash into the
account must be converted by Quicken to a Buy transaction. In
order to enter a Buy transaction, Quicken has to know what
security to Buy ... hence the need for you to establish the
single security that will be held in the Single Mutual Fund
account before you can initiate the transfer of any "cash" to it
from another account.

And you didn't have to use a "fake" SharesIn to establish the
position; you could have just done the transfer process in
reverse; entering a Buy-Shares Bought transaction in the
investment account, taking the funds from the checking account.
When you enter the first Buy transaction in the account, you
will be required to choose a security, and that will establish
the security ... and create a transaction that you can keep.

Nope wrote:
> Nope wrote:
>
> Found the problem Bug in Q. Seems you have to own
> something, anything in the account before you can
> transfer anything in. So I created a shares in
> transaction, then transfered in the real one, then
> deleted the fake one. Traansfered in a second
> transaction to make sure. Works fine.
>
> Man, what a waste of time...
>
> These guys are like MS...spend more time adding features
> than fixing old bugs.

I hate to rain on your rant, but it's not a bug.

The only investment account you have to establish a postion in
before transferring cash to it is a Single Mutual Fund account.

And the reason you have to establish a postion in a Single
Mutual Fund account before you can initiate a transfer of cash
to it from another account, is because a Single Mutual Fund
account can not hold any cash; so any transfer of cash into the
account must be converted by Quicken to a Buy transaction. In
order to enter a Buy transaction, Quicken has to know what
security to Buy ... hence the need for you to establish the
single security that will be held in the Single Mutual Fund
account before you can initiate the transfer of any "cash" to it
from another account.

And you didn't have to use a "fake" SharesIn to establish the
position; you could have just done the transfer process in
reverse; entering a Buy-Shares Bought transaction in the
investment account, taking the funds from the checking account.
When you enter the first Buy transaction in the account, you
will be required to choose a security, and that will establish
the security ... and create a transaction that you can keep.

--
John Pollard
First initial underscore Last name at mchsi dot com
Please reply to newsgroup



Posted by Roscoe on February 13, 2007, 4:03 pm
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> Nope wrote:
> > Nope wrote:
>
> > Found the problem Bug in Q. Seems you have to own
> > something, anything in the account before you can
> > transfer anything in. So I created a shares in
> > transaction, then transfered in the real one, then
> > deleted the fake one. Traansfered in a second
> > transaction to make sure. Works fine.
>
> > Man, what a waste of time...
>
> > These guys are like MS...spend more time adding features
> > than fixing old bugs.
>
> I hate to rain on your rant, but it's not a bug.
>
> The only investment account you have to establish a postion in
> before transferring cash to it is a Single Mutual Fund account.
>
> And the reason you have to establish a postion in a Single
> Mutual Fund account before you can initiate a transfer of cash
> to it from another account, is because a Single Mutual Fund
> account can not hold any cash; so any transfer of cash into the
> account must be converted by Quicken to a Buy transaction. In
> order to enter a Buy transaction, Quicken has to know what
> security to Buy ... hence the need for you to establish the
> single security that will be held in the Single Mutual Fund
> account before you can initiate the transfer of any "cash" to it
> from another account.
>
> And you didn't have to use a "fake" SharesIn to establish the
> position; you could have just done the transfer process in
> reverse; entering a Buy-Shares Bought transaction in the
> investment account, taking the funds from the checking account.
> When you enter the first Buy transaction in the account, you
> will be required to choose a security, and that will establish
> the security ... and create a transaction that you can keep.
>
> --
> John Pollard
> First initial underscore Last name at mchsi dot com
> Please reply to newsgroup

First off, doing it in reverse is an unnecessary pain...the
transaction already existed in my checking account. By doing in in
reverse I create a duplicate transaction, and then have to transfer
all the split info or whatever from the old transaction.

When I built the single mutual fund account, it asked me and I told it
what fund to use. I just told it zero shares at start-up. In fact,
at startup it only asks you shares which is goofy anyway...opening an
account in the real world for a new fund requires buying the
shares...I've never had shares just magically appear.

Once I have the account started it lets me transfer in funds and it
takes the price from that day and assumes it all went to a purchase.
I then edit for the actual price (if required) and the commission (if
any) and it's done. Why can't it do that the first time with a zero
balance? What's so hard about that concept? I shouldn't have to have
a mysterious "sharesin" to start, and then delete it.

OK, so technically it's not a bug (unintended action) but rather a
design flaw. A rather stupid one at that.

Pardon my rant...


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