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Hey, John Pollard - $10 DSL? R. C. White 06-19-2007
Posted by Laura on June 22, 2007, 4:21 pm
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While cable generally tends to be faster than DSL, my experience with
Verizon DSL has been pretty bad. I have cable here in NJ but have verizon
DSL in MA at my mom's. We keep losing connection or have problems connecting
to the internet. Their customer care has been outsourced to India and are
clueless. So be very careful when switching providers. Some are good and
some are bad. Ask your neighbors before you switch.

> Laura:
>
> You and PeteH are quite correct, I decided to download XP SP2 from the
> Microsoft download site, 266MB, averaged just under 5MB/min.
> Works out to ~666Mbs, if my arithmetic is correct. (Comcast *IS* the
> Devil!)
> Funny that that's actually slower than the cut-rate AT&T DSL.
> I know, not so funny for people who need the speed, but DAMN, I may check
> out DSL ;-)
>
> Bob
>
>>>>
> It also depends on the quality of the lines in your area. My step daughter
> just dropped Comcast because the lines were garbage. Comcast bought up so
> many old cable system over the years that their infrastructure in many
> areas
> results in poor internet service. One could also have the same type of
> issues with DSL if the phone lines in the area are old too. Only ISPs that
> are actively replacing their lines with fiber optics seem to be getting
> decent service.
>
>> PeterH:
>>
>> Well, that would explain why they're not making a bigger deal out of it.
>>
>> Bob
>>
>>>>>
>> Be careful... this is their "Powerboost" or some such name. It allows
>> downloads at a very high speed for a specific period of time then goes
>> back to "normal" speeds.
>>
>> For quick text downloads like yours, it's fine. Get into larger files
>> and their speeds suck compared to what they say you are to get.
>>
>> Service people were here three times and said my "levels" were good,
>> but I get faster downloads via wireless from a neighbor's DSL.
>>
>> PeterH
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 19:20:48 -0600, "Bob Wang"
>>
>>>Totally off topic.
>>>
>>>I don't do any heavy duty downloading, don't watch videos, listen to
>>>music,
>>>etc.
>>>So, I was not aware that Comcast had quietly tripled download speeds.
>>>I WAS pleasantly surpirsed though, when I ran a speed test out of idle
>>>curiosity.
>>>
>>>Bob
>>>
>>
>>
>
>


Posted by David H. Lipman on June 22, 2007, 4:55 pm
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| While cable generally tends to be faster than DSL, my experience with
| Verizon DSL has been pretty bad. I have cable here in NJ but have verizon
| DSL in MA at my mom's. We keep losing connection or have problems connecting
| to the internet. Their customer care has been outsourced to India and are
| clueless. So be very careful when switching providers. Some are good and
| some are bad. Ask your neighbors before you switch.
|

I have had Verizon ADSL in NJ for ~ 7yrs now. The last time I calculated it, I
have less
then .4% downtime and I keep my computers up 24x7.

I have also found the speeds of of Cable to be inconsistent. Like Ethernet,
Cable Internet
uses a shared trunk. Thus your neighbours can adversely affect you
upload/download speeds.
This is usually NOT the case with DSL. The Central Office is rarely overloaded
and you get
a consistent download speed based upon the speed of the servers and pipes
between you and
the server.

When FiOS (FTTP) comes to my community, I will *jump* at the chance.

As for those stating price per month for a service, it is incmplete information.
One *must* state the download/upload rates of the service per month. Otherwise
you can NOT
make a proper comparision.


--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm



Posted by Laura on June 22, 2007, 5:01 pm
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>
> | While cable generally tends to be faster than DSL, my experience with
> | Verizon DSL has been pretty bad. I have cable here in NJ but have
> verizon
> | DSL in MA at my mom's. We keep losing connection or have problems
> connecting
> | to the internet. Their customer care has been outsourced to India and
> are
> | clueless. So be very careful when switching providers. Some are good and
> | some are bad. Ask your neighbors before you switch.
> |
>
> I have had Verizon ADSL in NJ for ~ 7yrs now. The last time I calculated
> it, I have less
> then .4% downtime and I keep my computers up 24x7.
>
> I have also found the speeds of of Cable to be inconsistent. Like
> Ethernet, Cable Internet
> uses a shared trunk. Thus your neighbours can adversely affect you
> upload/download speeds.
> This is usually NOT the case with DSL. The Central Office is rarely
> overloaded and you get
> a consistent download speed based upon the speed of the servers and pipes
> between you and
> the server.
>
> When FiOS (FTTP) comes to my community, I will *jump* at the chance.
>
> As for those stating price per month for a service, it is incmplete
> information.
> One *must* state the download/upload rates of the service per month.
> Otherwise you can NOT
> make a proper comparision.

Hi Dave,

I thought I recognized your name from the verizon newsgroups. This is in MA
and I am not sure of the age of the lines. We are down at least 1-2 times
per week for several hours at a time. Maybe its just the area. Our friends
who have Comcast in the area report little or no problems with outages.


Posted by David H. Lipman on June 22, 2007, 7:47 pm
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|
| Hi Dave,
|
| I thought I recognized your name from the verizon newsgroups. This is in MA
| and I am not sure of the age of the lines. We are down at least 1-2 times
| per week for several hours at a time. Maybe its just the area. Our friends
| who have Comcast in the area report little or no problems with outages.

Yepper. Long time member of the Verizon.* hierarchy. :-)

There are many reasons why some do have problems. Some may be noise introduced
into the
copper wires and for others corrosion in the old twisted pair.

If I had a problem such as "...down at least 1-2 times per week for several
hours at a
time." I would raise a stink. That is way below average quality and I would
pursue two
avenues...

1. Pro-rata refund
2. Get the service working correctly.

During the years on Verizon DSL, I had a problem where I had "drop outs" of
connectivity.
Using a utility and performing pings, I actually graphed the short duration
outages.
Verizon replace a faulty Router and all worked well again.

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm



Posted by XS11E on June 20, 2007, 5:55 pm
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> In view of our recent discussion here about email providers, etc.,
> I thought you (and others here) might be interested in this news
> item that my son sent to me today. I haven't tried to locate it
> online because it doesn't interest me directly.

Now that it's decided this isn't spam I should point out the AT&T is
offering very low cost DSL in some areas but not in others.

My sister lives in San Marcos, Calif. and she was offered a $15/m DSL
account with AT&T, the same program is $30/m. where I live with a 1/2
price offer for the first year only.

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XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups
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