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How Quicken calculates retirement funds WIlliam 08-05-2006
Posted by WIlliam on August 5, 2006, 7:24 pm
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Within Quicken Deluxe there is a module for retirement planning and I have
been playing with it. Some of my funds are in IRA accounts whack will need
to be withdrawn by a certain minimum amount per year when I reach 70.5.
Obviously this annual IRA withdrawal has tax consequences increasing my tax
bracket as of that time.

In Quicken's retirement module there is a question about the tax bracket at
retirement. However my tax bracket will be less in retirement before the IRA
withdrawals and greater after. I assume that Quicken has no mechanism to
take into account this change in tax bracket. Am I correct?

Also, in its calculations does Quicken assume I am first depleting IRA funds
before using non IRA funds or the other way around?

Willliam



Posted by Carl on August 6, 2006, 3:11 am
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> Within Quicken Deluxe there is a module for retirement planning and I have
> been playing with it. Some of my funds are in IRA accounts whack will
> need to be withdrawn by a certain minimum amount per year when I reach
> 70.5. Obviously this annual IRA withdrawal has tax consequences increasing
> my tax bracket as of that time.
>
> In Quicken's retirement module there is a question about the tax bracket
> at retirement. However my tax bracket will be less in retirement before
> the IRA withdrawals and greater after. I assume that Quicken has no
> mechanism to take into account this change in tax bracket. Am I correct?
>
> Also, in its calculations does Quicken assume I am first depleting IRA
> funds before using non IRA funds or the other way around?
>
> Willliam
>
I use and recommend a spreadsheet for that purpose. The flexibility and
transparency of a spreadsheet is very helpful. I postulate income and
expense (as a budget) for future years. I can try various values of
inflation and increment or decrement my income. Basically, this shows me how
long my money will last in retirement under various scenarios.

PS: Does Willliam really have three ls?
Carl



Posted by WIlliam on August 6, 2006, 7:49 am
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Carl wrote:
>> Within Quicken Deluxe there is a module for retirement planning and
>> I have been playing with it. Some of my funds are in IRA accounts
>> whack will need to be withdrawn by a certain minimum amount per year
>> when I reach 70.5. Obviously this annual IRA withdrawal has tax
>> consequences
>> increasing my tax bracket as of that time.
>>
>> In Quicken's retirement module there is a question about the tax
>> bracket at retirement. However my tax bracket will be less in
>> retirement before the IRA withdrawals and greater after. I assume
>> that Quicken has no mechanism to take into account this change in
>> tax bracket. Am I correct? Also, in its calculations does Quicken assume
>> I am first depleting
>> IRA funds before using non IRA funds or the other way around?
>>
>> Willliam
>>
> I use and recommend a spreadsheet for that purpose. The flexibility
> and transparency of a spreadsheet is very helpful. I postulate income
> and expense (as a budget) for future years. I can try various values
> of inflation and increment or decrement my income. Basically, this
> shows me how long my money will last in retirement under various
> scenarios.
> PS: Does Willliam really have three ls?
> Carl

Thanks.

Using a spreadsheet that way would be beyond my capabilities. I'd be afraid
I forgot to take into account something. Are there such pre-coded blank
spreadsheet forms available for download?

William



Posted by Carl on August 6, 2006, 12:38 pm
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> Using a spreadsheet that way would be beyond my capabilities. I'd be
> afraid I forgot to take into account something. Are there such pre-coded
> blank spreadsheet forms available for download?
>
> William
Not that I know of. But, learning to use a spreadsheet is not difficult.

I used spreadsheets to manage my finances before I adopted Quicken. The main
advantage of Q, as I see it, is the historical reports. Q is generally
inflexible and opaque. Spreadsheets are very easy to change, insert or
delete something, and you can see what is happening.

Try a spreadsheet for financial projections -- you'll like it!
Carl



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