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How do I enter an "EXCHANGE" of Stock in Quicken? Ira 07-03-2007
Posted by Ira on July 4, 2007, 3:22 pm
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I am so pleased that you have all taken the time to respond. I still
have not yet taken action because CORPORATE ACQUSITION requires more
information (something about a per share price being offered).

However, I cannot answer your kind questions for more information. If
I had it, I certainly would have provided it.

The best I can say is that my merrill lynch statement showed up with
the following:

6/27 ESCBX EXCHANGE -38
6/27 GCVBT EXCHANGE +38

E = AXA Enterprises Small Co Value
G = Goldman Sachs Structured Small Cap Value B

It was not a sale and purchase (that would be SELL and BUY). This is
all the info I have. I am wondering if AXA was taken over by Goldman
Sachs

Thanks

wrotf:

>Hi, Ira.
>
>As JM said, we need a lot more information before we can give an intelligent
>answer.
>
>First, the Internal Revenue Code taxes gains on "sales and exchanges". In
>other words, an exchange of properties is just as taxable as a sale. Gain
>or loss is measured by subtracting your adjusted basis for the property
>traded away from the fair market value of the property received. Fair
>market value for the two properties is deemed to be equal and set at
>whichever can be more easily and accurately determined.
>
>Second, there are many exceptions to the general rule. These exceptions are
>all spelled out in code sections written by Congress to accomplish certain
>governmental goals. Many corporate transactions are very carefully
>structured by management (with advice from attorneys and CPAs) to fit within
>one of these exceptions. In order for us to know how a particular
>transaction is to be treated for tax purposes, we need to read the
>voluminous documents from corporate management to see which code section
>applies.
>
>Was your mutual fund exchange engineered by the fund managers to fit a code
>section? (This is not too unusual when managers are re-aligning funds
>within the "family".) Or was it a straightforward exchange that you
>initiated by calling your broker and saying that you think XYZ looks better
>than your ABC, so please swap them for me? (In that case, you would treat
>it as a sale of your ABC and a purchase of XYZ. All prior basis numbers and
>dates would be forgotten after the ABC sale is recorded.) Or did the
>exchange happen in some other way?
>
>If this is an management-initiated exchange, you should have received
>information about what happened "in the real world". With that, you should
>be able to figure out how to record it in Quicken - and we'll be glad to
>help. You also should discuss this with your own CPA and broker.
>
>RC

Posted by butron on July 14, 2007, 4:56 pm
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I have the exact question as Ira, except that I DO KNOW the
circumstances of the exchange. In my case, I had a couple of funds
with TIAA-CREF which were "merged" into other retail versions of the
same funds. Unfortunately this merge--which TIAA says is a NON-
TAXABLE event--was not on a 1-share for 1-share exchange basis, and I
am now with the problem of trying to figure out how to preserve the
basis cost from the "old" account in the "new" merged account.

Any ideas will be very much appreciated (I am afraid that corporate
acquisition will not do the trick, will it?)

Thanks.


Posted by butron on July 14, 2007, 5:36 pm
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One more thing, the number of new shares have nothing to do with the
number of old shares. So I am concerned that transforming every old
transaction into a new one, as suggested by dillapides above, will
result in a lot of accuracy errors.
Thanks.


Posted by John Pollard on July 14, 2007, 8:33 pm
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butron@ieee.org wrote:
> One more thing, the number of new shares have nothing to do
> with the
> number of old shares.

I think this is unlikely. I believe you need to provide
concrete evidence that it is so.

--
John Pollard
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Posted by butron on July 18, 2007, 1:29 am
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I posted my question to Quicken support and they confirmed some of the
suggestions posted in this forum before. For the sake of completeness
and to close the discussion, here is Quicken support's response:

"I understand your concern completely and in this case you can use the
transaction type as Corporate Acquisition in enter transaction field
and it will competently take care of your concern. To do this
appropriately just follow the step by step procedure mentioned in the
link I am giving you:

Title: How do I record a corporate acquisition (stock-for-stock)?
URL:
https://quicken.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/quicken.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=4883&p_created=115342626


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