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How do I make expired options balance in reports? zzz 11-06-2006
Posted by zzz on November 6, 2006, 7:52 am
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I sold some options as part of a split (i.e. 40)
Later I closed some of the positions (I.e. 10)
The remaining 30 expired.
I entered the original 40 as a short sell.
Then I entered the closing positions as a CvrShrt

In trying the handle the expiring positions, I did an adjust share balance
to zero. This generated a placeholder transaction because it wanted a value.
Quicken does not understand a zero value. Also, the report balances are off.
It does not report the loss so all my reports are screwed up.

Anyone solved this problem with expiring options and getting entries in so
that the balances and the reports are correct?
I am very frustrated.
--
Regards,
J



Posted by az-willie on November 6, 2006, 10:29 am
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zzz wrote:
> I sold some options as part of a split (i.e. 40)
> Later I closed some of the positions (I.e. 10)
> The remaining 30 expired.
> I entered the original 40 as a short sell.
> Then I entered the closing positions as a CvrShrt
>
> In trying the handle the expiring positions, I did an adjust share balance
> to zero. This generated a placeholder transaction because it wanted a value.
> Quicken does not understand a zero value. Also, the report balances are off.
> It does not report the loss so all my reports are screwed up.
>
> Anyone solved this problem with expiring options and getting entries in so
> that the balances and the reports are correct?
> I am very frustrated.
=============
Quicken is absolutely TERRIBLE for handling investments. Try Tradelog or
Gainskeeper.

I import to Quicken also but don't rely on it at all. It is full of
placeholders for all kinds of transactions it doesn't understand. I gave
up trying to make all the placeholders go away .. it would be a full
time job. I only bother to import to Quicken because it is easy to do
and gives one more possible backup to find transactions in case
everything else went to hell.

It can't even handle a short sale properly most of the time .. god help
you if you have a butterfly or strangle or anything more than a straight
buy / sell.

I wear suspenders and a belt :) I use both Tradelog and Gainskeeper and
they both make Quicken's investment section look like it was written by
a first year programmer ... hmmm more truth than poetry there.

Save yourself a whole lot of trouble and get one or both of the above
programs. Gainskeeper has some nice features to warn you of potential
wash sales and shows you potential double down situations but I wind up
using Tradelog to figure the taxes and for routinely searching for stock
transactions.

Both of them are worth the money.

Quicken? Blah.

Posted by KBH on November 6, 2006, 3:03 pm
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>I sold some options as part of a split (i.e. 40)
> Later I closed some of the positions (I.e. 10)
> The remaining 30 expired.
> I entered the original 40 as a short sell.
> Then I entered the closing positions as a CvrShrt In trying the handle the
> expiring positions, I did an adjust share balance to zero. This generated
> a placeholder transaction because it wanted a value. Quicken does not
> understand a zero value. Also, the report balances are off. It does not
> report the loss so all my reports are screwed up.
> Anyone solved this problem with expiring options and getting entries in so
> that the balances and the reports are correct?
> I am very frustrated.
> --

You're asking for help with Q.

But there is reply about using alternative personal finance softwares...and
I suppose that is meant for those with professional requirements. And when I
see mention of alternative personal finance softwares I link to 'KBH
Investor Accounting'.

'KBH Investor Accounting' uses a terminology of "Buy to Open" or "Sell to
Open" for all types of securities. The software has a first-in-first-out
transaction matchings that does not require designated blocks but works with
number of securities. And the program accounts year-to-date gain/loss of
realized positions and unrealized positions combined together. In all the
program has a Register book, a Portfolio book, a Mark-to-Market book, a
Realized book, and a Transaction input book.

Here is a user link to 'KBH Investor Accounting':

http://www.kbhscape.com/kbh.htm



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