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How to Change Credit Card Nmbr NoSpam 10-27-2007
Posted by Andrew DeFaria on October 28, 2007, 7:47 pm
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Han wrote:
>> A number of us in this NG reported this with Citibank several months
>> ago (me and Laura for too, I believe) as well When I called asking
>> for details, they too would not divulge what happened.
> I would be concerned too. However, I agree with Citibank not too
> divulge much detail. That could too easily lead to copycats,
Oh come on now! People who are capable and who would do such theft
already know how to do it and they surely don't scan
alt.comp.software.financial.quicken, nor Citibank's emails for ideas.
IOW ain't nobody gonna be copycatting anything here...
> or people falsely claiming problems.
If the problems are indeed false then the company called into question
need only reveal the truth.
> Disclosure: I have several credit cards managed by Citibank. Any
> problems with them have been resolved to my satisfaction.
Clearly something had happened. What's the point in hiding it? One need
not disclose the actual procedure to break in, just the details about
what break in occurred and who was responsible so that people have the
information they need to protect themselves and to make informed
decisions. Hiding information is not the answer!
--
Andrew DeFaria <http://defaria.com>
... File not found. Should I fake it? (Y/N)

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Han wrote:
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<blockquote type="cite"> A number of us in this NG reported this with
Citibank several months ago (me and Laura for too, I believe) as well
When I called asking for details, they too would not divulge what
happened. <br>
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<!---->I would be concerned too. However, I agree with Citibank not too
divulge&nbsp; much detail. That could too easily lead to copycats,</blockquote>
Oh come on now! People who are capable and who would do such theft
already know how to do it and they surely don't scan
alt.comp.software.financial.quicken, nor Citibank's emails for ideas.
IOW ain't nobody gonna be copycatting anything here...<br>
or people falsely claiming problems.<br>
</blockquote>
If the problems are indeed false then the company called into question
need only reveal the truth. <br>
<blockquote cite="mid:Xns99D6DC740D021ikkezelf@199.45.49.11"
type="cite">Disclosure:
I have several credit cards managed by Citibank. Any problems with them
have been resolved to my satisfaction.<br>
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Clearly something had happened. What's the point in hiding it? One need
not disclose the actual procedure to break in, just the details about
what break in occurred and who was responsible so that people have the
information they need to protect themselves and to make informed
decisions. Hiding information is not the answer!<br>
<div class="moz-signature">-- <br>
<a href="http://defaria.com">Andrew DeFaria</a><br>
<small><font color="#999999">... File not found. Should I fake it?
(Y/N)</font></small>

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Posted by Andrew DeFaria on October 28, 2007, 7:42 pm
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Andrew wrote:
>
>
> NoSpam@Notwork.com wrote:
>> Quicken 2008
>>
>> Citi Bank informed me yesterday my credit card is in a group
>> whose security has been compromised. They will be issuing me a
>> new card with a new number. I have years of data with this account.
> Personally this would have me very concerned. When "security has
> been compromised" to me it says that this company's security and
> procedures are lax. This doesn't happen to companies if they pay
> attention to and value security of their customers sensitive data
> like credit card information. IOW they screwed up big time and the
> chances are pretty high that such a thing can happen again. As
> such I would definitely be thinking twice before continuing a
> financial relationship with them.
> --
> Andrew DeFaria <http://defaria.com>
> If mother always knows best...What happens when two mothers disagree?
>
> A number of us in this NG reported this with Citibank several
> months ago (me and Laura for too, I believe) as well When I
> called asking for details, they too would not divulge what happened.
>
If your gonna use "rich text" then at least learn how to use it!

Personally I would vote with my dollars and go to some other financial
institution. Additionally I would write a letter (Remember letters?
Those paper things...) to the responsible higher ups explaining to them
exactly why I would no longer do business with Citibank - they, like the
Catholic church for that matter, cover up and do not expose illegal
activities. Such behavior should not be tolerated, IMHO.

Of course I'm sure that most shee^h^h^h^h people here would not complain
and just go along with it. This is exactly why this sort of crap happens
and exactly why large companies like Citibank don't care anymore -
because the people don't care enough to make a statement about it as
unacceptable behavior. Like the scene in /Animal House/ instead you bend
over and recite "Thank you sir can I have another...".
--
Andrew DeFaria <http://defaria.com>
Things are more like they are today than they ever were before.

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<br>
Citi Bank informed me yesterday my credit card is in a group whose
security has been compromised. They will be issuing me a new card with
a new number. I have years of data with this account. <br>
</blockquote>
Personally this would have me very concerned. When "security has been
compromised" to me it says that this company's security and procedures
are lax. This doesn't happen to companies if they pay attention to and
value security of their customers sensitive data like credit card
information. IOW they screwed up big time and the chances are pretty
high that such a thing can happen again. As such I would definitely be
thinking twice before continuing a financial relationship with them.<br>
<div class="moz-signature">-- <br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://defaria.com">Andrew DeFaria</a><br>
<small><font color="#999999">If mother always knows best...What
happens when two mothers disagree?</font></small> </div>
<div class="moz-signature">&nbsp;</div>
<div class="moz-signature"><font color="#999999" size="2">A number
of us in this NG reported this with Citibank several months ago (me and
Laura for too, I believe) as well&nbsp;&nbsp; When I called asking for details,
they too would not divulge what happened.</font></div>
</blockquote>
</blockquote>
If your gonna use "rich text" then at least learn how to use it!<br>
<br>
Personally I would vote with my dollars and go to some other financial
institution. Additionally I would write a letter (Remember letters?
Those paper things...) to the responsible higher ups explaining to them
exactly why I would no longer do business with Citibank - they, like
the Catholic church for that matter, cover up and do not expose illegal
activities. Such behavior should not be tolerated, IMHO. <br>
<br>
Of course I'm sure that most shee^h^h^h^h people here would not
complain and just go along with it. This is exactly why this sort of
crap happens and exactly why large companies like Citibank don't care
anymore - because the people don't care enough to make a statement
about it as unacceptable behavior. Like the scene in <i>Animal House</i>
instead you bend over and recite "Thank you sir can I have another...".<br>
<div class="moz-signature">-- <br>
<a href="http://defaria.com">Andrew DeFaria</a><br>
<small><font color="#999999">Things are more like they are today than
they ever were before.</font></small>
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Posted by sharx35 on October 29, 2007, 7:37 pm
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Andrew wrote:=20

NoSpam@Notwork.com wrote:=20
Quicken 2008

Citi Bank informed me yesterday my credit card is in a group =
whose security has been compromised. They will be issuing me a new card =
with a new number. I have years of data with this account.=20

Personally this would have me very concerned. When "security has =
been compromised" to me it says that this company's security and =
procedures are lax. This doesn't happen to companies if they pay =
attention to and value security of their customers sensitive data like =
credit card information. IOW they screwed up big time and the chances =
are pretty high that such a thing can happen again. As such I would =
definitely be thinking twice before continuing a financial relationship =
with them.

--=20
Andrew DeFaria
If mother always knows best...What happens when two mothers =
disagree?=20

A number of us in this NG reported this with Citibank several =
months ago (me and Laura for too, I believe) as well When I called =
asking for details, they too would not divulge what happened.
If your gonna use "rich text" then at least learn how to use it!

Personally I would vote with my dollars and go to some other financial =
institution. Additionally I would write a letter (Remember letters? =
Those paper things...) to the responsible higher ups explaining to them =
exactly why I would no longer do business with Citibank - they, like the =
Catholic church for that matter, cover up and do not expose illegal =
activities. Such behavior should not be tolerated, IMHO.=20

Of course I'm sure that most shee^h^h^h^h people here would not =
complain and just go along with it. This is exactly why this sort of =
crap happens and exactly why large companies like Citibank don't care =
anymore - because the people don't care enough to make a statement about =
it as unacceptable behavior. Like the scene in Animal House instead you =
bend over and recite "Thank you sir can I have another...".

--=20
Andrew DeFaria
Things are more like they are today than they ever were before.=20

No doubt YOU have uttered those same words many times.


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Posted by Oilcan on October 27, 2007, 3:01 pm
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I have the same experience without any explanation and get a new card in the
mail with an enclosure saying my security has been compromised. I however
do not use this card (AT&T Universal) very often and I only keep it as I
have a long credit history with it (back to 1990 as a charter account).

What I did was activate the new card and made sure it was ready for
transaction download. I then deactivated the download in Quicken - did a
normal update (which would exclude this account). I then entered the new
account number and reestablished the update.

If this is an active account, I would likely set-up a new account in Quicken
and continue downloading for awhile in both the old and new. If you have
reoccurring payments to your account, don't forget to get them switched over
to the new account. Citi will likely automatically transfer these between
the old and the new account -- but don't be surprised if they reject a
payment. Once I have satisfied that I will no longer receive any charges on
the old account I would deactivate. I would not transfer individual
transactions between the old account and the new as I can always go back to
the old account and look something up.

Oilcan

> Quicken 2008
>
> Citi Bank informed me yesterday my credit card is in a group whose
> security has been compromised. They will be issuing me a new card
> with a new number. I have years of data with this account.
>
> Is there a way to functionally just change the credit card number and
> still use the automatic download systems that Citi Bank supports?
>
> Gordon
> Atlanta
> _______
> Gordon Potter
> Atlanta, GA


Posted by Bob Wang on October 27, 2007, 5:17 pm
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I would just disable Direct Connect.
Then re-enable Direct Connect with the new account number.

Bob

>>>
Quicken 2008

Citi Bank informed me yesterday my credit card is in a group whose
security has been compromised. They will be issuing me a new card
with a new number. I have years of data with this account.

Is there a way to functionally just change the credit card number and
still use the automatic download systems that Citi Bank supports?

Gordon
Atlanta
_______
Gordon Potter
Atlanta, GA



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