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How to record mutual fund share class exchange Route 101© 07-10-2007
Posted by Oilcan on July 10, 2007, 11:08 pm
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Here is a link to a message which discusses this:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.comp.software.financial.quicken/browse_thread/thread/bf60c03f6eb5f43e/f51974764c981bf1?lnk=gst&q=Class+B+to+Class+A+Conversion&rnum=3&hl=en#f51974764c981bf1

When I had these conversions I dreaded this as it took sometime to record
each of the lots.

Oilcan

> Yes, you are correct, and your post corresponds to the various info. from
> senior Quicken user forum members. Using corporate name change as one
> suggested requires manually deleting the lots not converted.
>
> I used your approach and entered the total cost (basis) from the removed
> class B shares as the cost of the added class A shares and let Quicken
> calculate the price per share.
>
> Unfortunately, my statement shows a total lot amount "exchanged from" that
> does not seem to correspond to my individual lots in Quicken. That makes
> it difficult to enter a real original acquisition date for ST/LT and
> performance purposes; at least they are in IRAs. I may just use the
> earlier purchase dates instead of the exchange dates, because they all
> will be LT when they convert, and there are no Schedule Ds involved
> anyway.
>
> Thanks for your reply.
> --
> ..............................
> I used to be indecisive. Now I'm not sure.
>
>
>> Route 101© wrote:
>>> I'm not sure how to record in Quick H&B 2007 R5 a non-taxable
>>> exchange of some shares of a mutual from one class to another. After
>>> holding class B shares for the required time, they converted to class
>>> A shares. Downloading directly from the FI (UBS) did not record the
>>> change, but instead triggered the placeholder message, which I
>>> canceled.
>>> Neither corporate acquisition nor spin-off seem to apply here.
>>> Corporate name change won't work because it's only some of the
>>> shares. Adding and removing shares seems to lose the cost basis
>>> history. Buying and selling, even making the total dollar amounts
>>> equal, also seems to lose cost basis history and creates capital
>>> gains and losses.
>>> I'd didn't find anything in the Quicken help. Still searching the
>>> Quicken user forum with no success so far.
>>
>> Corporate Acquisition is the only Quicken transaction I know that applies
>> the sort of logic needed ... but unfortunately, it applies to all shares
>> of the acquired "company".
>>
>> However, I think you're mistaken that Add Shares loses cost basis. If
>> you use the "Enter Transactions" button and look at the "Add - Shares
>> Added" transaction form, you'll note that the Add Shares transaction
>> allows you to tell Quicken to cost of the lot and date it was acquired
>> ... both useful for your purposes.
>>
>> I think you can use one "Shares Removed" transaction to remove all
>> appropriate lots of the class B shares; then one Add Shares transaction
>> for each "lot" of class B shares that converted to class A shares. You
>> can have a different number of shares in the class B Add Shares
>> transaction than were in the removed class A lot, but the same cost and
>> same acquisition date as the class A lot.
>>
>> --
>> John Pollard
>> First initial underscore Last name at mchsi dot com
>> Please reply to newsgroup
>>
>
>


Posted by John Pollard on July 11, 2007, 12:51 pm
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> Yes, you are correct, and your post corresponds to the various info. from
> senior Quicken user forum members. Using corporate name change as one
> suggested requires manually deleting the lots not converted.
>
> I used your approach and entered the total cost (basis) from the removed
> class B shares as the cost of the added class A shares and let Quicken
> calculate the price per share.
>
> Unfortunately, my statement shows a total lot amount "exchanged from" that
> does not seem to correspond to my individual lots in Quicken. That makes =
it
> difficult to enter a real original acquisition date for ST/LT and
> performance purposes; at least they are in IRAs.

> I may just use the earlier
> purchase dates instead of the exchange dates, because they all will be LT
> when they convert, and there are no Schedule Ds involved anyway.

Actually, I believe that is the correct way to do it, and I meant to
say that in my previous post; sorry about that.

If all your shares had converted, you could have used the Corporate
Acquisition transaction, and the Corporate Acquisition uses the
original purchase date for the "Date Acquired" in the Add Shares
transactions it generates.


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