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Lost Report lanman 01-01-2008
Posted by John Pollard on January 3, 2008, 5:37 pm
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 lanman wrote:

> Me too, but it didn't work.
> The report included transactions after the closing date.

But so does the report printed at the immediate conclusion of a
reconcile ... if such transactions exist in the register at that
time.

I don't know about you, but I almost always have transactions in
the account that occured after the statement period ... which
would appear on a reconcile report ... if I created one. [They
do when I create a test report.]

I'm not sure what you intend to do with the report, and I've
made no effort to check it in detail, but it appeared to me that
the numbers for the statement period itself were the same, even
if new transactions had been added after the reconcile.

In any event, I don't think there is any alternative, other than
printing from a backup.

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Posted by lanman on January 4, 2008, 9:25 am
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 On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 16:37:57 -0600, "John Pollard"

>lanman wrote:
>
>> Me too, but it didn't work.
>> The report included transactions after the closing date.
>
>But so does the report printed at the immediate conclusion of a
>reconcile ... if such transactions exist in the register at that
>time.
>
>I don't know about you, but I almost always have transactions in
>the account that occured after the statement period ... which
>would appear on a reconcile report ... if I created one. [They
>do when I create a test report.]
>
>I'm not sure what you intend to do with the report, and I've
>made no effort to check it in detail, but it appeared to me that
>the numbers for the statement period itself were the same, even
>if new transactions had been added after the reconcile.
>
>In any event, I don't think there is any alternative, other than
>printing from a backup.

I agree with you, and it's not worth the effort to do a restore just
for the report. If I ever have the problem again, I'll remember to
print the report before entering new transactions. Thanks for your
time and assistance. Regards...

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Posted by John Pollard on January 2, 2008, 1:21 pm
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lanman wrote:

> Nevertheless, I set the date on the report back to 12/30 when
> I
> originally reconciled, and it didn't work. The numbers and
> items
> changed and apparently included transactions entered after the
> 12/30
> reconciliation.

> Is there a way to get a report which mirrors the one done on
> 12/30?

I think not, if you've changed the account register since the
reconcile.

If you have the report include all transactions, it's going to
include transactions not reconciled ... even the report run as
part of the reconcile process does that. If you have added
transactions to the account since you reconciled, they're going
to appear in the reconciliation report.

[I don't use the report, so I have not taken the time to verify
in detail, the validity of a recon report for an account that
has had transactions added/modified since the reconcile. But a
quick glance suggests the report may be "correct", even though
not what would have printed at the conclusion of the reconcile.
If - a big if - the only difference is in the "uncleared
transactions", I don't know why the report wouldn't suffice.]

To see the exact same report that would have printed at the
conclusion of reconciling, restore a backup, from just following
the reconcile, to a temporary folder, and print the recon report
from there.

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Posted by Andrew on January 2, 2008, 8:26 pm
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John Pollard wrote:
> lanman wrote:
>
>> Nevertheless, I set the date on the report back to 12/30 when
>> I
>> originally reconciled, and it didn't work. The numbers and
>> items
>> changed and apparently included transactions entered after the
>> 12/30
>> reconciliation.
>
>> Is there a way to get a report which mirrors the one done on
>> 12/30?
>
> I think not, if you've changed the account register since the
> reconcile.
>
> If you have the report include all transactions, it's going to
> include transactions not reconciled ... even the report run as
> part of the reconcile process does that. If you have added
> transactions to the account since you reconciled, they're going
> to appear in the reconciliation report.
>
> [I don't use the report, so I have not taken the time to verify
> in detail, the validity of a recon report for an account that
> has had transactions added/modified since the reconcile. But a
> quick glance suggests the report may be "correct", even though
> not what would have printed at the conclusion of the reconcile.
> If - a big if - the only difference is in the "uncleared
> transactions", I don't know why the report wouldn't suffice.]
>
> To see the exact same report that would have printed at the
> conclusion of reconciling, restore a backup, from just following
> the reconcile, to a temporary folder, and print the recon report
> from there.

Ah, I see what you mean John - the OP did say "mirror the one done on
12/30,". But, what I mean (and what I think he might mean but I could be
misunderstanding his true intent) is to verify that his Quicken account
reconciles as to the 12/30 bank statement. It is true, as you say, he may
have transactions added since the original 12/30. But that should not
negate the intent of his balancing to the 12/30 statement, unless he ALSO
wishes to see 'uncleared' transactions exactly as they might have been at
that point too, right? And since he did say he's using H&B, that might be
what he needs for auditing purposes. Not sure.

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Regards -

- Andrew



Posted by John Pollard on January 3, 2008, 5:19 pm
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Andrew wrote:
>>
>> To see the exact same report that would have printed at the
>> conclusion of reconciling, restore a backup, from just
>> following
>> the reconcile, to a temporary folder, and print the recon
>> report
>> from there.
>
> Ah, I see what you mean John - the OP did say "mirror the one
> done on
> 12/30,". But, what I mean (and what I think he might mean but
> I
> could be misunderstanding his true intent) is to verify that
> his
> Quicken account reconciles as to the 12/30 bank statement. It
> is
> true, as you say, he may have transactions added since the
> original
> 12/30. But that should not negate the intent of his balancing
> to the
> 12/30 statement, unless he ALSO wishes to see 'uncleared'
> transactions exactly as they might have been at that point
> too,
> right? And since he did say he's using H&B, that might be
> what he
> needs for auditing purposes. Not sure.

I assumed the same as you. As I said, I don't use the report,
so I didn't spend a great deal of time trying to determine what
the differences were, but it looked to me like the portion of
the report that covered the reconciled transactions will be the
same if no changes were made to the reconciled transactions.

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