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Merging two IRA accounts into a single account oldman 08-22-2008
Posted by oldman on August 22, 2008, 11:05 am
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We each have two IRA accounts at the same broker. Since I will be
taking MRD's next year and to make things simpler we are having the
broker on his system combine each of our two IRA accounts into a
single account. We would like to do the same with Quicken v 2008.

Can someone please provide the steps to take to accomplish this task.

Thanks,

Oldman

Posted by John Pollard on August 22, 2008, 11:55 am
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oldman@old.net wrote:
> We each have two IRA accounts at the same broker. Since I will
> be
> taking MRD's next year and to make things simpler we are
> having the
> broker on his system combine each of our two IRA accounts into
> a
> single account. We would like to do the same with Quicken v
> 2008.
>
> Can someone please provide the steps to take to accomplish
> this task.

Try using the Quicken investment transaction, "Shares
transferred between accounts", to "move" the Quicken holdings
from one Quicken IRA account to the other.

If you have any cash in the FROM account, you can move that with
a Quicken "Cash transferred out of account" transaction, though
Quicken might ask you if the "deposit" in the TO account is a
"contribution". I don't think it matters if Quicken thinks it's
a "contribution" (I can't find any evidence of what Quicken does
with that info), but there is a way to avoid the question
altogether.

You can create a dummy security, call it "Dummy Cash Security",
for example (any name that will never be the same as any real
security). Use the cash in the FROM account to "buy" shares of
"Dummy Cash Security" at $1/share. Do that before you do the
"Shares transferred between accounts" transaction, so the dummy
cash security will get transferred along with all the other
securities.

Then in the TO account, "sell" all shares of "Dummy Cash
Security" (at $1/share) to put the actual cash into the TO
account.

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John Pollard
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Posted by oldman on August 22, 2008, 2:06 pm
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John,

Thanks for the response. I know what to do now. however, it seems
that when the shares are transferred you loose the original
transaction date. Is the a way to keep the date? I have restored to
my original file because of this problem.

Oldman

wrote:

>oldman@old.net wrote:
>> We each have two IRA accounts at the same broker. Since I will
>> be
>> taking MRD's next year and to make things simpler we are
>> having the
>> broker on his system combine each of our two IRA accounts into
>> a
>> single account. We would like to do the same with Quicken v
>> 2008.
>>
>> Can someone please provide the steps to take to accomplish
>> this task.
>
>Try using the Quicken investment transaction, "Shares
>transferred between accounts", to "move" the Quicken holdings
>from one Quicken IRA account to the other.
>
>If you have any cash in the FROM account, you can move that with
>a Quicken "Cash transferred out of account" transaction, though
>Quicken might ask you if the "deposit" in the TO account is a
>"contribution". I don't think it matters if Quicken thinks it's
>a "contribution" (I can't find any evidence of what Quicken does
>with that info), but there is a way to avoid the question
>altogether.
>
>You can create a dummy security, call it "Dummy Cash Security",
>for example (any name that will never be the same as any real
>security). Use the cash in the FROM account to "buy" shares of
>"Dummy Cash Security" at $1/share. Do that before you do the
>"Shares transferred between accounts" transaction, so the dummy
>cash security will get transferred along with all the other
>securities.
>
>Then in the TO account, "sell" all shares of "Dummy Cash
>Security" (at $1/share) to put the actual cash into the TO
>account.

Posted by John Pollard on August 22, 2008, 2:23 pm
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oldman@old.net wrote:
> I know what to do now. however, it seems
> that when the shares are transferred you loose the original
> transaction date. Is the a way to keep the date? I have
> restored to
> my original file because of this problem.

The "transaction" date for the transfer is, correctly, the date
the transfer occurred.

But if you "Edit" the "Shares Added" transactions in the TO
account, you will see that Quicken retained the original
"Acquisition" date for each lot you transferred.

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John Pollard
First initial underscore Last name at mchsi dot com
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Posted by oldman on August 22, 2008, 4:04 pm
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John,

Thanks. I had not looked in the to account when I finished.

Oldman

wrote:

>oldman@old.net wrote:
>> I know what to do now. however, it seems
>> that when the shares are transferred you loose the original
>> transaction date. Is the a way to keep the date? I have
>> restored to
>> my original file because of this problem.
>
>The "transaction" date for the transfer is, correctly, the date
>the transfer occurred.
>
>But if you "Edit" the "Shares Added" transactions in the TO
>account, you will see that Quicken retained the original
>"Acquisition" date for each lot you transferred.

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