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New Info - Unreliable Data Quotes / No Server - Work around docdec1 01-18-2008
Posted by docdec1 on January 20, 2008, 3:05 pm
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> Stevey wrote:
>
> >> Oilcan wrote:
> >>> Watch out on weekends about dates.
>
> >> Watch out also for prices provided before the current day's
> >> mutual fund prices are available.
>
> > The screen will tell you the actual day that the quotes were
> > based on.
>
> But the .csv file will always have today's date, regardless of
> the date shown in the display.
>
> I'd suggest only creating the .csv file on non-holiday weekdays
> after mutual fund prices are available for the day.
>
> --
> John Pollard
> First initial underscore Last name at mchsi dot com
> Please reply to newsgroup

Downloaded NetStock version 1.74.001. It worked well, but a couple of
areas I had to tweak.

As several have mentioned, the date, is the date of the NetStock
export. As I was doing it over the weekend, I simply went in and did
an "Edit" / "Replace" to change the date on the prices.txt file to
reflect, Friday - 1/18/2008.

A second area was one security had a post date of July 11, 2008. I
found the same issue when using the other process. It was quickly
resolved by going into NetStock, Settings, Data Preferences, and
changing Number Formats from 2 to 4.

There has been excellent dialogue in the posts. Either process will
work to alleviate the quote issues we've all suffered with. The one
item I'm still looking at is whether, after using the process, IF the
quote server is working, will the quotes be updated to show, high,
low, and volume for last Friday.




Posted by John Taylor on January 21, 2008, 5:41 am
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>> Stevey wrote:
>>
>> >> Oilcan wrote:
>> >>> Watch out on weekends about dates.
>>
>> >> Watch out also for prices provided before the current day's
>> >> mutual fund prices are available.
>>
>> > The screen will tell you the actual day that the quotes were
>> > based on.
>>
>> But the .csv file will always have today's date, regardless of
>> the date shown in the display.
>>
>> I'd suggest only creating the .csv file on non-holiday weekdays
>> after mutual fund prices are available for the day.
>>
>> --
>> John Pollard
>> First initial underscore Last name at mchsi dot com
>> Please reply to newsgroup
>
> Downloaded NetStock version 1.74.001. It worked well, but a couple of
> areas I had to tweak.
>
> As several have mentioned, the date, is the date of the NetStock
> export. As I was doing it over the weekend, I simply went in and did
> an "Edit" / "Replace" to change the date on the prices.txt file to
> reflect, Friday - 1/18/2008.
>
> A second area was one security had a post date of July 11, 2008. I
> found the same issue when using the other process. It was quickly
> resolved by going into NetStock, Settings, Data Preferences, and
> changing Number Formats from 2 to 4.
>
> There has been excellent dialogue in the posts. Either process will
> work to alleviate the quote issues we've all suffered with. The one
> item I'm still looking at is whether, after using the process, IF the
> quote server is working, will the quotes be updated to show, high,
> low, and volume for last Friday.
>

Sorry I'm a bit late joining the discussion, but hopefully the information
below will be of use to some Quicken users who prepare their own files of
stock prices for import into Quicken, and who want High, Low, and Volume as
well as Last price.

The link provided leads to an old newsgroup posting with details of the .csv
file structure to enable importing not only Closing (Last) Price for a
security, but also High, Low, and Volume.

I have tried it and it works well, but for some as yet undiscovered reason
Volumes greater than 20 million aren't imported.

Note also that if your date format is dd/mm/yyyy (rather than mm/dd/yyyy as
in the post), the format in the post can be changed accordingly.

It's fairly easy to set up an Excel macro to output a .csv file in the
required format, using either Yahoo or NetStock data as input.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.comp.software.financial.quicken/browse_thread/thread/3e4559053cfbbea9/bfc41ce185cd46da?lnk=st&q=#bfc41ce185cd46da

Regards,

John




Posted by docdec1 on January 21, 2008, 11:32 pm
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>
>
>
>
>
>
> >> Stevey wrote:
>
> >> >> Oilcan wrote:
> >> >>> Watch out on weekends about dates.
>
> >> >> Watch out also for prices provided before the current day's
> >> >> mutual fund prices are available.
>
> >> > The screen will tell you the actual day that the quotes were
> >> > based on.
>
> >> But the .csv file will always have today's date, regardless of
> >> the date shown in the display.
>
> >> I'd suggest only creating the .csv file on non-holiday weekdays
> >> after mutual fund prices are available for the day.
>
> >> --
> >> John Pollard
> >> First initial underscore Last name at mchsi dot com
> >> Please reply to newsgroup
>
> > Downloaded NetStock version 1.74.001. =A0It worked well, but a couple of=

> > areas I had to tweak.
>
> > As several have mentioned, the date, is the date of the NetStock
> > export. =A0As I was doing it over the weekend, I simply went in and did
> > an "Edit" / "Replace" to change the date on the prices.txt file to
> > reflect, Friday - 1/18/2008.
>
> > A second area was one security had a post date of July 11, 2008. =A0I
> > found the same issue when using the other process. =A0It was quickly
> > resolved by going into NetStock, Settings, Data Preferences, and
> > changing Number Formats from 2 to 4.
>
> > There has been excellent dialogue in the posts. =A0Either process will
> > work to alleviate the quote issues we've all suffered with. =A0The one
> > item I'm still looking at is whether, after using the process, IF the
> > quote server is working, will the quotes be updated to show, high,
> > low, and volume for last Friday.
>
> Sorry I'm a bit late joining the discussion, but hopefully the information=

> below will be of use to some Quicken users who prepare their own files of
> stock prices for import into Quicken, and who want High, Low, and Volume a=
s
> well as Last price.
>
> The link provided leads to an old newsgroup posting with details of the .c=
sv
> file structure to enable importing not only Closing (Last) Price for a
> security, but also High, Low, and Volume.
>
> I have tried it and it works well, but for some as yet undiscovered reason=

> Volumes greater than 20 million aren't imported.
>
> Note also that if your date format is dd/mm/yyyy (rather than mm/dd/yyyy a=
s
> in the post), the format in the post can be changed accordingly.
>
> It's fairly easy to set up an Excel macro to output a .csv file in the
> required format, using either Yahoo or NetStock data as input.
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.comp.software.financial.quicken/br...
>
> Regards,
>
> John- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Thank you John!

I'm not an 'awk' s/w person - really a hardware geek. But anyway, I
used NetStock, the Mega file export, and did some editing in Excel. I
was able to load price, high, and low as you mentioned. Yes, the
volume, I haven't been able to resolve yet. But this is a WORKAROUND
for a falling golden goose. It is truly sad!

My other thought was whether a 'good' Quicken 'download' would take
care of the above. Since it (Quicken download) hasn't worked since
Thursday, I don't have a clue - YET.

What I really think is we need to get together a group of unsatisfied
Quicken users and develope a product that will solve issues for both
Intuit and Money users.

Whatcha think?


Posted by John Taylor on January 22, 2008, 1:27 am
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>
>
>
>
>
>
> >> Stevey wrote:
>
> >> >> Oilcan wrote:
> >> >>> Watch out on weekends about dates.
>
> >> >> Watch out also for prices provided before the current day's
> >> >> mutual fund prices are available.
>
> >> > The screen will tell you the actual day that the quotes were
> >> > based on.
>
> >> But the .csv file will always have today's date, regardless of
> >> the date shown in the display.
>
> >> I'd suggest only creating the .csv file on non-holiday weekdays
> >> after mutual fund prices are available for the day.
>
> >> --
> >> John Pollard
> >> First initial underscore Last name at mchsi dot com
> >> Please reply to newsgroup
>
> > Downloaded NetStock version 1.74.001. It worked well, but a couple of
> > areas I had to tweak.
>
> > As several have mentioned, the date, is the date of the NetStock
> > export. As I was doing it over the weekend, I simply went in and did
> > an "Edit" / "Replace" to change the date on the prices.txt file to
> > reflect, Friday - 1/18/2008.
>
> > A second area was one security had a post date of July 11, 2008. I
> > found the same issue when using the other process. It was quickly
> > resolved by going into NetStock, Settings, Data Preferences, and
> > changing Number Formats from 2 to 4.
>
> > There has been excellent dialogue in the posts. Either process will
> > work to alleviate the quote issues we've all suffered with. The one
> > item I'm still looking at is whether, after using the process, IF the
> > quote server is working, will the quotes be updated to show, high,
> > low, and volume for last Friday.
>
> Sorry I'm a bit late joining the discussion, but hopefully the information
> below will be of use to some Quicken users who prepare their own files of
> stock prices for import into Quicken, and who want High, Low, and Volume
> as
> well as Last price.
>
> The link provided leads to an old newsgroup posting with details of the
> .csv
> file structure to enable importing not only Closing (Last) Price for a
> security, but also High, Low, and Volume.
>
> I have tried it and it works well, but for some as yet undiscovered reason
> Volumes greater than 20 million aren't imported.
>
> Note also that if your date format is dd/mm/yyyy (rather than mm/dd/yyyy
> as
> in the post), the format in the post can be changed accordingly.
>
> It's fairly easy to set up an Excel macro to output a .csv file in the
> required format, using either Yahoo or NetStock data as input.
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.comp.software.financial.quicken/br...
>
> Regards,
>
> John- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

-----------------------------

> Thank you John!

> I'm not an 'awk' s/w person - really a hardware geek. But anyway, I
> used NetStock, the Mega file export, and did some editing in Excel. I
> was able to load price, high, and low as you mentioned. Yes, the
> volume, I haven't been able to resolve yet. But this is a WORKAROUND
> for a falling golden goose. It is truly sad!
>
> My other thought was whether a 'good' Quicken 'download' would take
> care of the above. Since it (Quicken download) hasn't worked since
> Thursday, I don't have a clue - YET.
>
> What I really think is we need to get together a group of unsatisfied
> Quicken users and develope a product that will solve issues for both
> Intuit and Money users.
>
> Whatcha think?

G'day,

Pleased it worked for you - more or less! Like I said, the Volume issue can
be a pain but for me (in Oz) it's not usually too much of an issue (volumes
of most stocks seldom over 20 million).

From my experience, I *think* a 'good' Quicken download will add the latest
day's data and overwrite the previous four days data. But, I'm using
Quicken in Oz and your mileage (presuming you're in the US) may vary.

I'm not an 'awk' person either, but if you have some knowledge of Excel it's
relatively easy to write (even with the help of the macro recorder) a macro
to do the job.

As for your suggestion regarding developing a new product - sorry to be a
wet blanket, but in a word - NO.

If MS and Intuit can't get it right, I doubt that we could. I don't have
programming skills, and even if I did it would be an absolutely HUGE task to
design a program like either Money or Quicken from scratch.

Regards,

John



Posted by wbertram on January 22, 2008, 1:48 pm
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Try using the Yahoo/Finance downloadable .csv file. Works fine with
Quicken.

docdec1@juno.com wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>> Stevey wrote:
>>>>>> Oilcan wrote:
>>>>>>> Watch out on weekends about dates.
>>>>>> Watch out also for prices provided before the current day's
>>>>>> mutual fund prices are available.
>>>>> The screen will tell you the actual day that the quotes were
>>>>> based on.
>>>> But the .csv file will always have today's date, regardless of
>>>> the date shown in the display.
>>>> I'd suggest only creating the .csv file on non-holiday weekdays
>>>> after mutual fund prices are available for the day.
>>>> --
>>>> John Pollard
>>>> First initial underscore Last name at mchsi dot com
>>>> Please reply to newsgroup
>>> Downloaded NetStock version 1.74.001. It worked well, but a couple of
>>> areas I had to tweak.
>>> As several have mentioned, the date, is the date of the NetStock
>>> export. As I was doing it over the weekend, I simply went in and did
>>> an "Edit" / "Replace" to change the date on the prices.txt file to
>>> reflect, Friday - 1/18/2008.
>>> A second area was one security had a post date of July 11, 2008. I
>>> found the same issue when using the other process. It was quickly
>>> resolved by going into NetStock, Settings, Data Preferences, and
>>> changing Number Formats from 2 to 4.
>>> There has been excellent dialogue in the posts. Either process will
>>> work to alleviate the quote issues we've all suffered with. The one
>>> item I'm still looking at is whether, after using the process, IF the
>>> quote server is working, will the quotes be updated to show, high,
>>> low, and volume for last Friday.
>> Sorry I'm a bit late joining the discussion, but hopefully the information
>> below will be of use to some Quicken users who prepare their own files of
>> stock prices for import into Quicken, and who want High, Low, and Volume as
>> well as Last price.
>>
>> The link provided leads to an old newsgroup posting with details of the .csv
>> file structure to enable importing not only Closing (Last) Price for a
>> security, but also High, Low, and Volume.
>>
>> I have tried it and it works well, but for some as yet undiscovered reason
>> Volumes greater than 20 million aren't imported.
>>
>> Note also that if your date format is dd/mm/yyyy (rather than mm/dd/yyyy as
>> in the post), the format in the post can be changed accordingly.
>>
>> It's fairly easy to set up an Excel macro to output a .csv file in the
>> required format, using either Yahoo or NetStock data as input.
>>
>> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.comp.software.financial.quicken/br...
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> John- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> Thank you John!
>
> I'm not an 'awk' s/w person - really a hardware geek. But anyway, I
> used NetStock, the Mega file export, and did some editing in Excel. I
> was able to load price, high, and low as you mentioned. Yes, the
> volume, I haven't been able to resolve yet. But this is a WORKAROUND
> for a falling golden goose. It is truly sad!
>
> My other thought was whether a 'good' Quicken 'download' would take
> care of the above. Since it (Quicken download) hasn't worked since
> Thursday, I don't have a clue - YET.
>
> What I really think is we need to get together a group of unsatisfied
> Quicken users and develope a product that will solve issues for both
> Intuit and Money users.
>
> Whatcha think?
>

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