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Posted by R. C. White on August 12, 2006, 4:15 pm
Please log in for more thread options Hi, Caryl.
> However, when I went to the Backup folder, I noted that I only have
> five files in the fileset. Each file has the number 21 after it, and in
> properties each one says that it was created and modified July 7, 2002.
> So obviously my automatic backups are not being made. And what does the
> number 21 mean?
Are you sure you are looking the RIGHT backup folder? You may have a dozen
folders with that name scattered around your hard drive. The only one that
matters here is C:Program FilesQuickenBACKUP, assuming you accepted the
default when you installed Quicken. The program creates that subfolder
automatically within the Quicken folder and assigns the name in ALL CAPS. I
don't recall if it is Hidden, but I don't think so.
From the date, I would guess that this is a folder that you created 4 years
ago when you were running Q2002 - perhaps when you first upgraded from
Q2001? It would have only a single fileset, the latest one at that time.
If we use a number as a part of our data file name, Quicken's appended digit
can get confusing. Years ago, I had a problem and started a new fileset,
calling it QDATA2. When Quicken did its automatic backup, it appended a 1,
of course, making my filename QDATA21. That didn't bother Quicken or
Windows, but it sure confused ME! So I always advise against using a number
in the name of the file, especially as the final character in the name.
Could that explain how you wound up with a 21 after your filenames?
> I then looked in a folder under Quicken called Q02Files. This folder
> has the same five backup files but without any number after them. The
> property for these are February 6, 2005, which may be the date that I
> installed my new version 2005. Can this whole folder be deleted?
Yes - and yes. This is where Quicken 2005 saved your old files before
converting them into new ones in the Q05 format. These files normally never
get changed - or even used. If you are sure that you will never revert to
Quicken 2002, you can delete this folder entirely - or archive it "just in
case" if you are a packrat like me.
RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
(Retired - no longer licensed to practice)
San Marcos, TX
rc@grandecom.net
> R. C. White wrote:
>> As you probably know, we discuss this topic again here every few weeks.
>> Also, you probably know that what Quicken calls "a file" is actually a
>> set
>> of related files, all with the same filename but a different extension.
>> There will always be a *.qdf file and there will probably be one or more
>> files with extensions like .qtx and .qel, depending on how YOU use
>> Quicken.
>> In this newsgroup, we often refer to this group of related files as a
>> "fileset".
>>
>> There are 3 kinds of backups in Quicken:
>>
>> 1. Automatic backups: Done automatically by Quicken once a week,
>> starting
>> with the day you install Quicken. Always into the QuickenBackup folder
>> that the program creates automatically. The most recent is QDATA1.*;
>> others
>> numbered from QDATA2.* to as many as you have set in Preferences. Each
>> week, the oldest fileset is deleted and the others are renamed, from
>> oldest
>> to newest, with the numbers decremented by one (QDATA3 becomes QDATA2,
>> etc.)
>> and the current fileset is then saved as QDATA1.*
>>
>> 2. Manual backups: Done whenever YOU say to whichever location YOU
>> specify. You can either overwrite previous backups or save the new one
>> to a
>> different location or different set of filenames. You can make an
>> unlimited
>> number of these backups. And you should make at least some of these
>> backups
>> to removable media (CD, floppy, USB flash drive, etc.) that you can store
>> separately from the computer.
>>
>> 3. Reminder backups: These are really the same as #2, but if you
>> haven't
>> done a #2 recently, Quicken asks if you want to make a backup as you exit
>> Quicken. The "recently" is up to you. Quicken can be set to remind you
>> every time you exit, or after 100 exits without having made a manual
>> backup,
>> or whichever number you choose.
>>
>> To set options, go to Edit | Preferences | Quicken Program | Backup. The
>> two numbers you can enter here refer to my items #1 and #3 above. If you
>> set the first one to 10, then Quicken will remind you to backup as you
>> exit
>> after you have exited 10 times without making a MANUAL backup (#2). If
>> you
>> set the second number to 5, then you should find 5 "filesets" in the
>> QuickenBackup folder, numbered from QDATA1 to QDATA5. (For the first 5
>> weeks that you use Quicken, there will be fewer sets here.)
>
> I use Quicken Deluxe 2005 R5. I have been following this backup
> discussion and decided to check my backups. I first went to the Edit |
> Preferences | Quicken Program | Backup screen and the reminder backup
> is set to 1. (I do not always backup my data everytime I exit Quicken,
> but I like to be reminded to do it!) The "maximum number of backup
> copies" is set for 5.
>
> However, when I went to the Backup folder, I noted that I only have
> five files in the fileset. Each file has the number 21 after it, and in
> properties each one says that it was created and modified July 7, 2002.
> So obviously my automatic backups are not being made. And what does the
> number 21 mean?
>
> I then looked in a folder under Quicken called Q02Files. This folder
> has the same five backup files but without any number after them. The
> property for these are February 6, 2005, which may be the date that I
> installed my new version 2005. Can this whole folder be deleted?
>
> Thanks.
> Caryl
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