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Posted by R. C. White on August 13, 2006, 5:16 pm
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Hi, Caryl.
It sounds like your backup file cleanup is nearly done. ;<)
I've seen QuickenWBACKUPBACKUP on my own computer, too. I don't recall
how it happened, but the fix is, as you said, to put all the valid data into
the upper-level folder and then delete that bottom-level one.
I suspect your QDATA4, dated 3/7/2005, was left over from a previous
installation. Note that 3/7/2005 and 2/21/2005 were Mondays. (Wonder what
happened to 2/28/2005, the Monday between those dates?) Your current
backups are dated on 8/8/2006, which is Tuesday, and on the two previous
Tuesdays. When did you last install Quicken? Was it on Tuesday, 7/18/2006?
That was less than a month ago, giving Quicken time to make only 3 weekly
backups, QDATA1 through QDATA3. By the end of August, you should have
QDATA1 thorugh QDATA5, dated on the 5 Tuesdays in August, 8/1/2006 through
8/29/2006.
You DID say that you have Preferences set to FIVE automatic backups, didn't
you? I'm not sure how Quicken reacts when we change the setting - from 3 to
5, for example, or vice versa. If it had saved 5 generations in the past,
then you changed it to 3, I don't know if - or how soon - Quicken would
delete QDATA4 and QDATA5. Perhaps such a change on your computer has left
those outdated backups "orphaned".
Once you get the old entries cleared out of QuickenBACKUP, then give it a
few weeks to get things straightened out, you should see the expected 5
weekly backups in that folder.
In another post, you said:
"RC, thanks for your help. I doublechecked, and the backup folder is
where you said it should be. Except instead of Quicken, it says
QUICKENW."
Intuit first sold Quicken for MS-DOS only, then sold both MS-DOS and Windows
versions in the early 1990's. That's when they added the "W" to distinguish
the Windows version. My installation has been "upgraded" every few years
and still goes into my QuickenW folder. Apparently, that's what happened to
yours, too. You can change it if you like. It's just the name of the
folder and I think the program would run just as well if you installed it in
C:Q - or C:Caryl - but it might confuse us humans. ;^}
RC
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R. C. White, CPA [RC]
San Marcos, TX
(Retired. No longer licensed to practice public accounting.)
rc@grandecom.net
Microsoft Windows MVP
(currently running Windows Mail 7 in Vista x64 Build 5472)
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> Caryl wrote:
>> R. C. White wrote:
>> > Are you sure you are looking the RIGHT backup folder? You may have a
>> > dozen
>> > folders with that name scattered around your hard drive. The only one
>> > that
>> > matters here is C:Program FilesQuickenBACKUP, assuming you accepted
>> > the
>> > default when you installed Quicken. The program creates that subfolder
>> > automatically within the Quicken folder and assigns the name in ALL
>> > CAPS. I
>> > don't recall if it is Hidden, but I don't think so.
>>
>> RC, thanks for your help. I doublechecked, and the backup folder is
>> where you said it should be. Except instead of Quicken, it says
>> QUICKENW. When I go to the BACKUP folder there is another folder called
>> BACKUP in it. This is the folder that has the five files mentioned in
>> my earlier post.
>
> RC, I went to the BACKUP folder again and realized what happened. I
> said above that I had a subfolder called BACKUP under the first BACKUP
> folder and this subfolder had the five files from 2002. However, for
> some reason I had never looked into the main BACKUP folder. I have now
> done so and found that there are five file sets in it called QDATA1 up
> to QDATA5, and dated 2/21/2005 to 8/8/2006. QDATA 4 is dated 3/7/2005,
> and then QDATA3 is dated 7/25/2006. I do not know why there is such a
> space between those two backups, but the last three have a week between
> each, so it is apparently working correctly now.
>
> Does this mean that I can delete the subfolder called BACKUP so there
> is just the main BACKUP folder?
>
> Thanks again for your help.
>
> Caryl
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Posted by John Pollard on August 13, 2006, 5:31 pm
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> I've seen QuickenWBACKUPBACKUP on my own computer, too. I
> don't recall how it happened,
I suspect it happens when one has Quicken "open" a file in the
BACKUP folder. When Quicken wants to do its automatic backup,
it will just create a new folder, BACKUPBACKUP. Also could
explain the existence of the QDATA21 file referred to earlier;
probably let Quicken open the backup file, QDATA2.
I suggest never opening a backup file; either restore it or make
a Windows copy of the fileset and open the copy.
> but the fix is, as you said, to put all the valid data into
> the upper-level folder and then delete that bottom-level one.
>
> I suspect your QDATA4, dated 3/7/2005, was left over from a
> previous installation. Note that 3/7/2005 and 2/21/2005 were
> Mondays. (Wonder what happened to 2/28/2005, the Monday
> between those dates?) Your current backups are dated on
> 8/8/2006, which is Tuesday, and on the two previous Tuesdays.
> When did you last install Quicken? Was it on Tuesday,
> 7/18/2006? That was less than a month ago, giving Quicken time
> to make only 3 weekly backups, QDATA1 through QDATA3. By the
> end of August, you should have QDATA1 thorugh QDATA5, dated on
> the 5 Tuesdays in August, 8/1/2006 through 8/29/2006.
A couple of possibilities for the date gap: not running Quicken
for some time (probably won't explain the large gap, but can
cause gaps like the one "missing Monday"); and using a different
Quicken data fileset in a different folder for some period. A
Windows Explorer search for *.qdf should find any other BACKUP
folders that might be present.
A third possibility is excessive tidiness. :) Concern over
mounting numbers of files have caused some folks to start house
cleaning without realizing they were deleting valuable files.
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Posted by Caryl on August 14, 2006, 12:30 am
Please log in for more thread options John Pollard wrote:
> A couple of possibilities for the date gap: not running Quicken
> for some time (probably won't explain the large gap, but can
> cause gaps like the one "missing Monday"); and using a different
> Quicken data fileset in a different folder for some period.
Unless I am away I almost always turn on Quicken every morning, because
I daily use the one step update for my stock portfolios. We do travel
alot, but were definitely not away for that long period of time between
3/7/2005 and 7/25/2006. But I will not worry about that gap as it seems
to be working correctly now.
> A third possibility is excessive tidiness. :) Concern over
> mounting numbers of files have caused some folks to start house
> cleaning without realizing they were deleting valuable files.
I have never been accused of "excessive tidiness" either in my computer
files or my apartment! Since I never knew where the automatic backups
were kept until I started to read this string, deleting old backup
files is not a possibility.
Thanks to you and R.C. for all the time you both have spent helping me
with this.
Caryl
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Posted by Caryl on August 14, 2006, 12:15 am
Please log in for more thread options R. C. White wrote:
> Note that 3/7/2005 and 2/21/2005 were Mondays. (Wonder what
> happened to 2/28/2005, the Monday between those dates?)
Maybe I was away that day and did not log into Quicken. If my backups
are normally made on a certain day of the week and I do not turn
Quicken on that day, will it wait a week before making the automatic
backup or will it do it on the next day that the program is turned on?
>Your current
> backups are dated on 8/8/2006, which is Tuesday, and on the two previous
> Tuesdays. When did you last install Quicken? Was it on Tuesday, 7/18/2006?
> That was less than a month ago, giving Quicken time to make only 3 weekly
> backups, QDATA1 through QDATA3. By the end of August, you should have
> QDATA1 thorugh QDATA5, dated on the 5 Tuesdays in August, 8/1/2006 through
> 8/29/2006.
I installed Quicken 2005 on Sunday, 2/6/2005. But I recently changed
the number of backups from three to five; that would explain why there
are only three weekly backups with the correct date.
> Once you get the old entries cleared out of QuickenBACKUP, then give it a
> few weeks to get things straightened out, you should see the expected 5
> weekly backups in that folder.
Okay--and if I do not I will write again for advice!
Caryl
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Posted by R. C. White on August 14, 2006, 11:26 am
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Inline...
> R. C. White wrote:
>> Note that 3/7/2005 and 2/21/2005 were Mondays. (Wonder what
>> happened to 2/28/2005, the Monday between those dates?)
>
> Maybe I was away that day and did not log into Quicken. If my backups
> are normally made on a certain day of the week and I do not turn
> Quicken on that day, will it wait a week before making the automatic
> backup or will it do it on the next day that the program is turned on?
I don't know. When you find out, post it here so that the rest of us will
know, too. The beauty of a newsgroup is that we all learn from each other.
We learn one day, teach the next. ;<)
>>Your current
>> backups are dated on 8/8/2006, which is Tuesday, and on the two previous
>> Tuesdays. When did you last install Quicken? Was it on Tuesday,
>> 7/18/2006?
>> That was less than a month ago, giving Quicken time to make only 3 weekly
>> backups, QDATA1 through QDATA3. By the end of August, you should have
>> QDATA1 thorugh QDATA5, dated on the 5 Tuesdays in August, 8/1/2006
>> through
>> 8/29/2006.
>
> I installed Quicken 2005 on Sunday, 2/6/2005. But I recently changed
> the number of backups from three to five; that would explain why there
> are only three weekly backups with the correct date.
That makes sense. I still don't know when (or whether) it will
automatically delete the old QDATA4 and 5. Perhaps you can teach us that,
too.
>> Once you get the old entries cleared out of QuickenBACKUP, then give it
>> a
>> few weeks to get things straightened out, you should see the expected 5
>> weekly backups in that folder.
>
> Okay--and if I do not I will write again for advice!
>
> Caryl
Great!
RC
--
R. C. White, CPA [RC]
San Marcos, TX
(Retired. No longer licensed to practice public accounting.)
rc@grandecom.net
Microsoft Windows MVP
(currently running Windows Mail 7 in Vista x64 Build 5472)
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