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OT: MS Money Jeff 03-26-2008
Posted by Laura on March 30, 2008, 6:44 pm
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There is a newsgroup called microsoft.public.money. You can find it on the
Microsoft server (msnews.microsoft.com) if your news server does not carry
it.


> Where is the Money newsgroup? I could not find it.
>
> Jeff
>
> Oilcan wrote:
>> I had used Money 2005 for about six months. It was a resource hog on
>> my machine, to much interaction with the web, too many ads and at the
>> time in early 2005, the "Yodlee" interface was unreliable.
>>
>> I did find Money's reporting capabilities more to my liking. I
>> switched back to Quicken 2005 in May 2005 when my Money file became
>> so corrupted that I couldn't fix it - even with the backups I had :(.
>> It took me a lot of time to get my Quicken files in order.
>>
>> The one other item I remember is the Money newsgroup was much more
>> active with this one. However, I am sure they have some satisfied
>> users.
>> Oilcan
>>
>>>> For what it is worth, I was playing today with MS Money Plus Deluxe
>>>> and thought to share some thoughts.
>>>>
>>>> It is absolutely terrible. Many of its features (retirement planner
>>>> among others) only work if connected to the internet - which means
>>>> it uses the Microsoft website instead of the purchased program. Many
>>>> other components are similar and to work they require not only
>>>> internet access but - to make things worse - permitting Active-X in
>>>> Internet Explorer with all the risks involved.
>>>>
>>>> Just thought to share. Quicken is way better and at least privacy
>>>> is better because your numbers remain on your PC instead of someone
>>>> else's website.
>>>>
>>>> Jeff
>>>
>>> I used MS$ until the end of last year, MSMoney2005. When the
>>> downloads quit, I also got tired of it's increasing slowness and
>>> decided
>>> it was time to switch. I'm fairly happy with the switch to Quicken
>>> but conversion was such a PITA I ended up doing the switchover
>>> at year end instead. So I've got a lot of historical still there. I
>>> was also driven by family succession planning since the next
>>> generation
>>> uses Quicken. If I get hit by a bus, my wife is going to need the
>>> kids to help her. She's a real Luddite!
>>>
>>> I was able to do "planning" and other tasks without the Internet
>>> connection, perhaps the newer Money does different.
>>>
>>> Like Quicken, MSMoney will load your information onto the
>>> corresponding website but you can disable that. I find them both
>>> to be about the same, doing the same things only different approach
>>> and UI. I DO find, however that Quicken is much faster.
>>>
>>> Still learning some of it's methods to better fit me however.
>>> Especially the quickfill on entry.
>>>
>>> In my experience, MSMoney does a much better job at getting stock
>>> quotes in a consistent and timely manner. Not being a day trader
>>> it is not any kind of problem for me.
>
>


Posted by R. C. White on March 31, 2008, 9:41 am
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Hi, Jeff.

I see you are using Outlook Express 6. So, just click here:

news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.money

That will fire up OE (if it is not already running); create the News Account
for the Microsoft public news server, which is free and does not require a
logon; connect you to the Money NG; download the 300 newest posts; and
display the newest message in the Preview Pane.

As Laura said, this is hosted on the Microsoft servers, one of more than
2,000 public newsgroups there. Since they are public, messages from these
newsgroups are "slurped" by many other news servers and relayed - with any
responses - back and forth to and from the subscribers of those other
servers (some free, some paid, some bundled into the price of the ISP's
service - like my ISP). The relay process can result in messages that are
delayed or out of sequence or simply lost. So, even if the newsgroups you
want are available from your ISP or another free source, it's best to
connect directly to the MS servers and "cut out the middleman".

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
(Retired. No longer licensed to practice public accounting.)
rc@grandecom.net
Microsoft Windows MVP
(Currently running Quicken 2008 Deluxe in Vista Ultimate x64 SP1)

> Where is the Money newsgroup? I could not find it.
>
> Jeff
>
> Oilcan wrote:
>> I had used Money 2005 for about six months. It was a resource hog on
>> my machine, to much interaction with the web, too many ads and at the
>> time in early 2005, the "Yodlee" interface was unreliable.
>>
>> I did find Money's reporting capabilities more to my liking. I
>> switched back to Quicken 2005 in May 2005 when my Money file became
>> so corrupted that I couldn't fix it - even with the backups I had :(.
>> It took me a lot of time to get my Quicken files in order.
>>
>> The one other item I remember is the Money newsgroup was much more
>> active with this one. However, I am sure they have some satisfied
>> users.
>> Oilcan
>>
>>>> For what it is worth, I was playing today with MS Money Plus Deluxe
>>>> and thought to share some thoughts.
>>>>
>>>> It is absolutely terrible. Many of its features (retirement planner
>>>> among others) only work if connected to the internet - which means
>>>> it uses the Microsoft website instead of the purchased program. Many
>>>> other components are similar and to work they require not only
>>>> internet access but - to make things worse - permitting Active-X in
>>>> Internet Explorer with all the risks involved.
>>>>
>>>> Just thought to share. Quicken is way better and at least privacy
>>>> is better because your numbers remain on your PC instead of someone
>>>> else's website.
>>>>
>>>> Jeff
>>>
>>> I used MS$ until the end of last year, MSMoney2005. When the
>>> downloads quit, I also got tired of it's increasing slowness and
>>> decided
>>> it was time to switch. I'm fairly happy with the switch to Quicken
>>> but conversion was such a PITA I ended up doing the switchover
>>> at year end instead. So I've got a lot of historical still there. I
>>> was also driven by family succession planning since the next
>>> generation
>>> uses Quicken. If I get hit by a bus, my wife is going to need the
>>> kids to help her. She's a real Luddite!
>>>
>>> I was able to do "planning" and other tasks without the Internet
>>> connection, perhaps the newer Money does different.
>>>
>>> Like Quicken, MSMoney will load your information onto the
>>> corresponding website but you can disable that. I find them both
>>> to be about the same, doing the same things only different approach
>>> and UI. I DO find, however that Quicken is much faster.
>>>
>>> Still learning some of it's methods to better fit me however.
>>> Especially the quickfill on entry.
>>>
>>> In my experience, MSMoney does a much better job at getting stock
>>> quotes in a consistent and timely manner. Not being a day trader
>>> it is not any kind of problem for me.


Posted by Jeff on March 31, 2008, 10:35 am
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Thank you very much.

Jeff

R. C. White wrote:
> Hi, Jeff.
>
> I see you are using Outlook Express 6. So, just click here:
>
> news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.money
>
> That will fire up OE (if it is not already running); create the News
> Account for the Microsoft public news server, which is free and does
> not require a logon; connect you to the Money NG; download the 300
> newest posts; and display the newest message in the Preview Pane.
>
> As Laura said, this is hosted on the Microsoft servers, one of more
> than 2,000 public newsgroups there. Since they are public, messages
> from these newsgroups are "slurped" by many other news servers and
> relayed - with any responses - back and forth to and from the
> subscribers of those other servers (some free, some paid, some
> bundled into the price of the ISP's service - like my ISP). The
> relay process can result in messages that are delayed or out of
> sequence or simply lost. So, even if the newsgroups you want are
> available from your ISP or another free source, it's best to connect
> directly to the MS servers and "cut out the middleman".
> RC
>
>> Where is the Money newsgroup? I could not find it.
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>> Oilcan wrote:
>>> I had used Money 2005 for about six months. It was a resource hog
>>> on my machine, to much interaction with the web, too many ads and
>>> at the time in early 2005, the "Yodlee" interface was unreliable.
>>>
>>> I did find Money's reporting capabilities more to my liking. I
>>> switched back to Quicken 2005 in May 2005 when my Money file became
>>> so corrupted that I couldn't fix it - even with the backups I had
>>> :(. It took me a lot of time to get my Quicken files in order.
>>>
>>> The one other item I remember is the Money newsgroup was much more
>>> active with this one. However, I am sure they have some satisfied
>>> users.
>>> Oilcan
>>>
>>>>> For what it is worth, I was playing today with MS Money Plus
>>>>> Deluxe and thought to share some thoughts.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is absolutely terrible. Many of its features (retirement
>>>>> planner among others) only work if connected to the internet -
>>>>> which means it uses the Microsoft website instead of the
>>>>> purchased program. Many other components are similar and to work
>>>>> they require not only internet access but - to make things worse
>>>>> - permitting Active-X in Internet Explorer with all the risks
>>>>> involved. Just thought to share. Quicken is way better and at
>>>>> least privacy
>>>>> is better because your numbers remain on your PC instead of
>>>>> someone else's website.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jeff
>>>>
>>>> I used MS$ until the end of last year, MSMoney2005. When the
>>>> downloads quit, I also got tired of it's increasing slowness and
>>>> decided
>>>> it was time to switch. I'm fairly happy with the switch to Quicken
>>>> but conversion was such a PITA I ended up doing the switchover
>>>> at year end instead. So I've got a lot of historical still
>>>> there. I was also driven by family succession planning since the
>>>> next generation
>>>> uses Quicken. If I get hit by a bus, my wife is going to need the
>>>> kids to help her. She's a real Luddite!
>>>>
>>>> I was able to do "planning" and other tasks without the Internet
>>>> connection, perhaps the newer Money does different.
>>>>
>>>> Like Quicken, MSMoney will load your information onto the
>>>> corresponding website but you can disable that. I find them both
>>>> to be about the same, doing the same things only different approach
>>>> and UI. I DO find, however that Quicken is much faster.
>>>>
>>>> Still learning some of it's methods to better fit me however.
>>>> Especially the quickfill on entry.
>>>>
>>>> In my experience, MSMoney does a much better job at getting stock
>>>> quotes in a consistent and timely manner. Not being a day trader
>>>> it is not any kind of problem for me.



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