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Online Bill Paying vs "Quicken Bill Pay" John Gregory 05-06-2006
Posted by Marc Auslander on May 8, 2006, 7:56 pm
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> Wachovia bank has offered free bill-pay through Quicken FOR YEARS. Before it
> was bought by Wachovia, my branch was a CoreStates, and then a FirstUnion.
> All offered bill-pay through Quicken (though at one time there was a charge
> of $3.99 per month if your balance went below a certain threshold, IIRC)
>

Right now, wachovia is NOT offering quicken bill pay support to new accounts.
No statements about what's coming. The do offer direct download. So
I am still paying Quicken to write my checks.
--

Posted by Lisa C on May 9, 2006, 8:11 am
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>>
>> Wachovia bank has offered free bill-pay through Quicken FOR YEARS. Before
>> it
>> was bought by Wachovia, my branch was a CoreStates, and then a
>> FirstUnion.
>> All offered bill-pay through Quicken (though at one time there was a
>> charge
>> of $3.99 per month if your balance went below a certain threshold, IIRC)
>>
>
> Right now, wachovia is NOT offering quicken bill pay support to new
> accounts.
> No statements about what's coming. The do offer direct download. So
> I am still paying Quicken to write my checks.
> --

Hmm. The Wachovia website lists Online bill-pay as a free service for
personal accounts.
http://www.wachovia.com/personal/pfmsupport/0,,6057_8484_8485,00.html

The instructions for setup are at this link
http://www.wachovia.com/personal/pfmsupport/0,,6057_8484_8486_8494,00.html



Posted by Guy Scharf on May 6, 2006, 4:39 pm
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> Anyway... I then switched to Quicken 2005HB to see what's needed.
> I've read about "downloading transactions to my account" and
> believe I understand. Along the way, however, I started reading
> about "Quicken Bill Pay" (QBP). That appears to be Intuits own
> service which will handle the actual payment for about ten bucks a
> month... verses "free" from my bank. Now I'm leery; there ain't no
> "free" lunch anywhere! I fear I'm about to discover I will still
> need QBP to have my bank handle the "free" payment. Their website
> http://www.nationalcity.com/personal/onlineservices/onlinebanking/Q
> uickenFAQ.asp#paybills tells me I can "pay bills directly via
> Quicken software" ... but it doesn't tell me how.

It looks like you may be in luck.

Usually, when banks use the phrase "online bill paying," they mean you
can pay a bill from their web site. That's undesirable, for a variety
of reasons including that it rarely integrates well with Quicken.

However, that web page says you can use "online bill paying through
Quicken," apparently at no cost. That's a good feature. Lots of bank
charge extra for bill paying through Quicken, if they offer the service
at all.

"Quicken Bill Pay" is a similar service offered by Intuit, for a fee.
You don't want that if you can get free service through your bank.

The way it works is that you use the Online Center in Quicken, select
your bank, select the Payments tab, and in effect write a check in
Quicken. Then you go online and upload the check to the bank, perhaps
as part of a One Step Update. The bank accepts your check request and
transfers funds to the destination account, if the destination supports
ACH transfers (and the bank knows which ones do), or cuts a check and
mails it to the recipient.

I write almost all my checks this way. I write a check on paper only a
couple of times a year.

Guy

Posted by John Gregory on May 7, 2006, 9:49 am
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Great! I also found an overview of "online account services" in Quicken Help
so I'll bone up on the details. I'll make a copy of my file and start to
play with the service as soon as they give me my password. I appreciate the
help, Guy. And Stubby, you're probably right about the Tar Baby pitfall.
Fortunately, I can electronically transfer funds from those other accounts
when needed and write all checks through the online bank linked to Quicken.
Would have to open another account, I suppose if I wanted to have a separate
one for business. Anyway, I appreciate all the input.


>
>> Anyway... I then switched to Quicken 2005HB to see what's needed.
>> I've read about "downloading transactions to my account" and
>> believe I understand. Along the way, however, I started reading
>> about "Quicken Bill Pay" (QBP). That appears to be Intuits own
>> service which will handle the actual payment for about ten bucks a
>> month... verses "free" from my bank. Now I'm leery; there ain't no
>> "free" lunch anywhere! I fear I'm about to discover I will still
>> need QBP to have my bank handle the "free" payment. Their website
>> http://www.nationalcity.com/personal/onlineservices/onlinebanking/Q
>> uickenFAQ.asp#paybills tells me I can "pay bills directly via
>> Quicken software" ... but it doesn't tell me how.
>
> It looks like you may be in luck.
>
> Usually, when banks use the phrase "online bill paying," they mean you
> can pay a bill from their web site. That's undesirable, for a variety
> of reasons including that it rarely integrates well with Quicken.
>
> However, that web page says you can use "online bill paying through
> Quicken," apparently at no cost. That's a good feature. Lots of bank
> charge extra for bill paying through Quicken, if they offer the service
> at all.
>
> "Quicken Bill Pay" is a similar service offered by Intuit, for a fee.
> You don't want that if you can get free service through your bank.
>
> The way it works is that you use the Online Center in Quicken, select
> your bank, select the Payments tab, and in effect write a check in
> Quicken. Then you go online and upload the check to the bank, perhaps
> as part of a One Step Update. The bank accepts your check request and
> transfers funds to the destination account, if the destination supports
> ACH transfers (and the bank knows which ones do), or cuts a check and
> mails it to the recipient.
>
> I write almost all my checks this way. I write a check on paper only a
> couple of times a year.
>
> Guy



Posted by Shorty on May 7, 2006, 12:03 pm
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I have been using free on line with my bank and with my broker for
several years. The bank is Citizens of Nevada County. I enter the
transaction at their website and then download it to Quicken by Web
Connect. Simple. The broker is Morgan Stanley. I enter the
transaction on their web site and Quicken automatically downloads the
transaction.


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