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Ping John Pollard, RC White? Year-End Copy in QP2008, Weird Data Left in Pruned File Margaret 02-15-2008
Posted by Margaret on February 15, 2008, 10:44 pm
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My data fileset has included data back through 01/01/2004 until a few
moments ago.... I just did a YEC to remove all 2004 data, but when I
look in my Tax Schedule Report, there's still data from 2004.
Specifically this data is from an "invisible" account named "Tax Impact
of 401(k)Accounts." It's showing MiscExpX transactions which seem to be
the deposits I made via my paycheck. These transactions show up under
tax line item "W-2, Salary or wages, self." The memo field of each
transaction is "Track 401(k) contributions for tax planning." And of
course, the transactions are not "cleared," which is why they got left
behind after the YEC.

This data doesn't show up for any years other than 2004, and of course,
the corresponding transfer transactions from my checking account have
been pruned. There are no uncleared transactions in my 403(b) account,
and the aforementioned MiscExpX transaction amounts match the Xin
transaction amounts in my 403(b) account.

I've been tracking my 403(b) since 1992, and I switched over to the
401(k) account type when it supported 403(b)s, can't remember exactly
when that was. Since I'm a yearly upgrader, I presumably started out
2004 using QP2004 and ended it using QP2005. I always thought it was
strange that this data showed up in the first place (only for 2004), but
figured Q wasn't very good at hiding its internal methods for tracking
these types of accounts (at the time). Anyway, I know these
transactions aren't hurting anything by hanging around. Still, when I
prune older data from my account, I want it *gone*. That it's not gone
-- and I can't make it gone -- is irking me. ;-)

After I realized this data got left behind, I copied the new file
(again) and validated it. There were no validation errors, and this
unwanted data is still there -- as I expected.

Any ideas on how I might purge these transactions once and for all?

Thx and Regards from Margaret the nit-picker. ;-)

Margaret

Posted by R. C. White on February 16, 2008, 8:27 am
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Hi, Margaret.

I'm sorry about the problem, but I'm not the right guy to ask about it for
at least a couple of reasons: First, I've never used Year-End Copy.
Second, I've never used Quicken's retirement-account features (401(k),
403(b), IRA - or even Keogh).

You DO have at least one recent backup, don't you? Be sure you preserve
that, so that if your working copy gets hopelessly confused, you'll have a
way to get back on track.

I hope that John or other readers can offer some suggestions.

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
(Retired. No longer licensed to practice public accounting.)
rc@grandecom.net
Microsoft Windows MVP
(Currently running Quicken 2008 Deluxe in Vista Ultimate x64 SP1)

> My data fileset has included data back through 01/01/2004 until a few
> moments ago.... I just did a YEC to remove all 2004 data, but when I look
> in my Tax Schedule Report, there's still data from 2004. Specifically this
> data is from an "invisible" account named "Tax Impact of 401(k)Accounts."
> It's showing MiscExpX transactions which seem to be the deposits I made
> via my paycheck. These transactions show up under tax line item "W-2,
> Salary or wages, self." The memo field of each transaction is "Track
> 401(k) contributions for tax planning." And of course, the transactions
> are not "cleared," which is why they got left behind after the YEC.
>
> This data doesn't show up for any years other than 2004, and of course,
> the corresponding transfer transactions from my checking account have been
> pruned. There are no uncleared transactions in my 403(b) account, and the
> aforementioned MiscExpX transaction amounts match the Xin transaction
> amounts in my 403(b) account.
>
> I've been tracking my 403(b) since 1992, and I switched over to the 401(k)
> account type when it supported 403(b)s, can't remember exactly when that
> was. Since I'm a yearly upgrader, I presumably started out 2004 using
> QP2004 and ended it using QP2005. I always thought it was strange that
> this data showed up in the first place (only for 2004), but figured Q
> wasn't very good at hiding its internal methods for tracking these types
> of accounts (at the time). Anyway, I know these transactions aren't
> hurting anything by hanging around. Still, when I prune older data from
> my account, I want it *gone*. That it's not gone -- and I can't make it
> gone -- is irking me. ;-)
>
> After I realized this data got left behind, I copied the new file (again)
> and validated it. There were no validation errors, and this unwanted data
> is still there -- as I expected.
>
> Any ideas on how I might purge these transactions once and for all?
>
> Thx and Regards from Margaret the nit-picker. ;-)
>
> Margaret


Posted by Laura on February 16, 2008, 9:31 am
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I'm wondering if hiding an account also means it is not impacted by the year
end process...
I would try restoring the last backup you have, un-hiding that account and
rerunning the year end copy process to see if that helps.

> Hi, Margaret.
>
> I'm sorry about the problem, but I'm not the right guy to ask about it for
> at least a couple of reasons: First, I've never used Year-End Copy.
> Second, I've never used Quicken's retirement-account features (401(k),
> 403(b), IRA - or even Keogh).
>
> You DO have at least one recent backup, don't you? Be sure you preserve
> that, so that if your working copy gets hopelessly confused, you'll have a
> way to get back on track.
>
> I hope that John or other readers can offer some suggestions.
>
> RC
> --
> R. C. White, CPA
> San Marcos, TX
> (Retired. No longer licensed to practice public accounting.)
> rc@grandecom.net
> Microsoft Windows MVP
> (Currently running Quicken 2008 Deluxe in Vista Ultimate x64 SP1)
>
>> My data fileset has included data back through 01/01/2004 until a few
>> moments ago.... I just did a YEC to remove all 2004 data, but when I look
>> in my Tax Schedule Report, there's still data from 2004. Specifically
>> this data is from an "invisible" account named "Tax Impact of
>> 401(k)Accounts." It's showing MiscExpX transactions which seem to be the
>> deposits I made via my paycheck. These transactions show up under tax
>> line item "W-2, Salary or wages, self." The memo field of each
>> transaction is "Track 401(k) contributions for tax planning." And of
>> course, the transactions are not "cleared," which is why they got left
>> behind after the YEC.
>>
>> This data doesn't show up for any years other than 2004, and of course,
>> the corresponding transfer transactions from my checking account have
>> been pruned. There are no uncleared transactions in my 403(b) account,
>> and the aforementioned MiscExpX transaction amounts match the Xin
>> transaction amounts in my 403(b) account.
>>
>> I've been tracking my 403(b) since 1992, and I switched over to the
>> 401(k) account type when it supported 403(b)s, can't remember exactly
>> when that was. Since I'm a yearly upgrader, I presumably started out
>> 2004 using QP2004 and ended it using QP2005. I always thought it was
>> strange that this data showed up in the first place (only for 2004), but
>> figured Q wasn't very good at hiding its internal methods for tracking
>> these types of accounts (at the time). Anyway, I know these
>> transactions aren't hurting anything by hanging around. Still, when I
>> prune older data from my account, I want it *gone*. That it's not
>> gone -- and I can't make it gone -- is irking me. ;-)
>>
>> After I realized this data got left behind, I copied the new file (again)
>> and validated it. There were no validation errors, and this unwanted
>> data is still there -- as I expected.
>>
>> Any ideas on how I might purge these transactions once and for all?
>>
>> Thx and Regards from Margaret the nit-picker. ;-)
>>
>> Margaret
>


Posted by Margaret on February 16, 2008, 12:44 pm
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R. C. White wrote:
> Hi, Margaret.
>
> I'm sorry about the problem, but I'm not the right guy to ask about it
> for at least a couple of reasons: First, I've never used Year-End Copy.
> Second, I've never used Quicken's retirement-account features (401(k),
> 403(b), IRA - or even Keogh).
>
> You DO have at least one recent backup, don't you? Be sure you preserve
> that, so that if your working copy gets hopelessly confused, you'll have
> a way to get back on track.

Sorry RC, I forgot, you're the Vista guy. ;-) I'm a backup fanatic,
having last worked in computer network security/disaster recovery. So I
have plenty of copies at every stage of the process.

Thanks and sorry for the bother. :-)

Regards,

Margaret

Posted by JM on February 16, 2008, 10:06 am
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wrote:
> My data fileset has included data back through 01/01/2004 until a few
> moments ago.... I just did a YEC to remove all 2004 data, but when I
> look in my Tax Schedule Report, there's still data from 2004.
> Specifically this data is from an "invisible" account named "Tax Impact
> of 401(k)Accounts." =A0It's showing MiscExpX transactions which seem to be=

> the deposits I made via my paycheck. =A0These transactions show up under
> tax line item "W-2, Salary or wages, self." =A0The memo field of each
> transaction is "Track 401(k) contributions for tax planning." And of
> course, the transactions are not "cleared," which is why they got left
> behind after the YEC.
>
> This data doesn't show up for any years other than 2004, and of course,
> the corresponding transfer transactions from my checking account have
> been pruned. =A0There are no uncleared transactions in my 403(b) account,
> and the aforementioned MiscExpX transaction amounts match the Xin
> transaction amounts in my 403(b) account.
>
> I've been tracking my 403(b) since 1992, and I switched over to the
> 401(k) account type when it supported 403(b)s, can't remember exactly
> when that was. =A0Since I'm a yearly upgrader, I presumably started out
> 2004 using QP2004 and ended it using QP2005. =A0I always thought it was
> strange that this data showed up in the first place (only for 2004), but
> figured Q wasn't very good at hiding its internal methods for tracking
> these types of accounts (at the time). =A0 Anyway, I know these
> transactions aren't hurting anything by hanging around. =A0Still, when I
> prune older data from my account, I want it *gone*. =A0That it's not gone
> -- and I can't make it gone -- is irking me. =A0;-)
>
> After I realized this data got left behind, I copied the new file
> (again) and validated it. =A0There were no validation errors, and this
> unwanted data is still there -- as I expected.
>
> Any ideas on how I might purge these transactions once and for all?
>
> Thx and Regards from Margaret the nit-picker. =A0;-)
>
> Margaret

Here is a link to a thread in Intuit's forum - describes a clever
method to gain access to the tax impact account:

http://www.quickencommunity.com/webx?14@@.efce5f2/26

Check out Post # 26 in this thread.
Post # 30 describes an alternat method.

Appears that once you gain access, you can delete the offending
transactions.

Suggest attempting this in a copy of your data file.


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