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Placeholders in QD 2006 JG 11-02-2006
Posted by JG on November 2, 2006, 11:04 am
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I use Schwab when I set up Quicken it said it would go back in history like
60 -90 days I think.
It went back 2 years. The problem most are bought /sold and fees.
I did read one post here that said you can delete these placeholders without
any effect on your balance.
Most of these want cost. If I delete them I can watch my balance disappear
quicker than 1929 crash.
has this ever been fixed in 06 or 07 ? Is it Schwab or Quicken?

Thanks
Jeff



Posted by John Pollard on November 2, 2006, 11:24 am
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>I use Schwab when I set up Quicken it said it would go back in
>history like 60 -90 days I think.
> It went back 2 years.

Isn't two years of history better than 90 days of history?

> The problem most are bought /sold and fees.

Not sure how this is a problem.

> I did read one post here that said you can delete these
> placeholders without any effect on your balance.

Can you point to this post?

> Most of these want cost.

You can enter it, if you have it available.

> If I delete them I can watch my balance disappear quicker than
> 1929 crash.

Naturally. A placeholder is an "Adjust Share Balance"
transaction. It's purpose is to allow you to tell Quicken how
many shares you owned on a certain date, when you do not have
available the actual historical transactions that make up that
share balance. Without the historical transactions, you will
never get the data completely accurate, but the placeholder
allows you to get as close as possible.

If you delete the placeholder, and there are no supporting
historical transactions in the account, the share balance will
change. (The number of shares that a placeholder adds to, or
subtracts from, an account varies depending on how many shares
are accounted for in historical transactions entered in the
account. If you have entered historical transactions that
account for 100% of the shares owned as of the date of the
placeholder, deleting the placeholder will not have any effect
on the share balance.)

> has this ever been fixed in 06 or 07 ? Is it Schwab or
> Quicken?

From what you have said; there's nothing to fix and it's neither
Quicken nor Schwab.

Usually the biggest mistake people make is to accept
placeholders when they do have the historical transactions
available and plan to enter them. When you have the history,
you should get rid of the placeholder and enter the history;
when you don't have the history, the placeholder works just
about as well as any alternative. (You can use Shares Added
transactions, but I don't see them as much of an improvement
over placeholders in that situation.)

--
John Pollard
First initial underscore Last name at mchsi dot com
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Posted by JG on November 2, 2006, 11:37 am
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So, I'll just leave this as is.
Thanks
For the reply.
Jeff
>
>>I use Schwab when I set up Quicken it said it would go back in history
>>like 60 -90 days I think.
>> It went back 2 years.
>
> Isn't two years of history better than 90 days of history?
>
>> The problem most are bought /sold and fees.
>
> Not sure how this is a problem.
>
>> I did read one post here that said you can delete these placeholders
>> without any effect on your balance.
>
> Can you point to this post?
>
>> Most of these want cost.
>
> You can enter it, if you have it available.
>
>> If I delete them I can watch my balance disappear quicker than 1929
>> crash.
>
> Naturally. A placeholder is an "Adjust Share Balance" transaction. It's
> purpose is to allow you to tell Quicken how many shares you owned on a
> certain date, when you do not have available the actual historical
> transactions that make up that share balance. Without the historical
> transactions, you will never get the data completely accurate, but the
> placeholder allows you to get as close as possible.
>
> If you delete the placeholder, and there are no supporting historical
> transactions in the account, the share balance will change. (The number
> of shares that a placeholder adds to, or subtracts from, an account varies
> depending on how many shares are accounted for in historical transactions
> entered in the account. If you have entered historical transactions that
> account for 100% of the shares owned as of the date of the placeholder,
> deleting the placeholder will not have any effect on the share balance.)
>
>> has this ever been fixed in 06 or 07 ? Is it Schwab or Quicken?
>
> From what you have said; there's nothing to fix and it's neither Quicken
> nor Schwab.
>
> Usually the biggest mistake people make is to accept placeholders when
> they do have the historical transactions available and plan to enter them.
> When you have the history, you should get rid of the placeholder and enter
> the history; when you don't have the history, the placeholder works just
> about as well as any alternative. (You can use Shares Added transactions,
> but I don't see them as much of an improvement over placeholders in that
> situation.)
>
> --
> John Pollard
> First initial underscore Last name at mchsi dot com
> Please reply to newsgroup
>



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