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Q2006: Aborts On Startup John 08-28-2006
Posted by treasur2 on September 4, 2006, 1:13 pm
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John, it could the registry, it could be a bad sector on your hard
drive (page file, etc.....quicken is a hugggggggggge memory hog), it
could be a failing memory stick, it could be many, many, many things.

The first thing I would do to quickly narrow it down would be to
attempt to run your quicken file from a second PC. Do you have that
ability........a laptop perhaps, a freinds machine.

Have to load quicken there first, then restore your quicken file. This
zeros in on the data file vs. the system.

If you don't have access to a second machine, I'd attempt a second
approach.

Awaiting your post.


John wrote:
> I have been having a problem with Quicken since Q2005. The problem is
> that the program aborts during startup. Sometimes I get an error codes
> like 7097 and 7088. I have been collecting data since 1994 and my .QDF
> file approximately 45MB. On one computer the data file opened with no
> problems while on another computer it would abort. Now it aborts on
> both computers. The computer on which it was working aborted after an
> online transaction download and now it aborts on startup.
>
> When I talked to support people at Quicken, they said that I could only
> maintian 3 years worth of data at any one time. This CAN'T be true!
> How do you maintain a cost basis on securities purchased if you have to
> archive data every three years. I have some investments that were
> purchased over 20 years ago. If I am using Quicken to keep track of
> all my expenses, investments, and income what good is it if I have to
> go to 5 or more different files in order to do any long-term analysis?
>
> Does anybody have any ideas of what I can do to solve this problem? I
> will be very upseet if I lose 12 years worth of data. Does Quicken
> 2007 solve this problem? Does Microsoft Money suffer from the same
> data file size problems?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> John Novak


Posted by John on September 6, 2006, 10:25 am
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treasur2 wrote:
> John, it could the registry, it could be a bad sector on your hard
> drive (page file, etc.....quicken is a hugggggggggge memory hog), it
> could be a failing memory stick, it could be many, many, many things.
>
I just added an additional 512MB of memory bringing it to 1152MB. It
did not help. At one time, unloading some programs was enough to get
the program to run but that doesn't work any more.

> The first thing I would do to quickly narrow it down would be to
> attempt to run your quicken file from a second PC. Do you have that
> ability........a laptop perhaps, a freinds machine.
>
I have done this. What usually happens is that the program will run
with my data file for a while and then unexpectedly it will crash.
>From this point on it will abort on startup. The thing I don't
understand is what changes on a computer after a certain period of
time, which causes it to crash! It seems that Quicken corrupts
something on that computer making it incompatible with large data
files. The strange thing is that smaller data files work on all of
these computers with no problem. This leads me to the conclusion that
the problem is related to large data files. But large data files run
on some computers and not others, but only for a period of time????
Currently, I have four computers that my large data file will not work
on and one that it does work on. Go figure! The one computer that
works has exactly the same configuration as one that doesn't. The one
with the most memory doesn't work with the large data file.

> Have to load quicken there first, then restore your quicken file. This
> zeros in on the data file vs. the system.
>
I have unistalled and reinstalled Quicken many times. On a few
ocasions this worked, but only for a short period of time. I have
installed the program at different locations to no avail. I have even
moved the data files with no change.

> If you don't have access to a second machine, I'd attempt a second
> approach.
>
> Awaiting your post.
>
>
> John wrote:
> > I have been having a problem with Quicken since Q2005. The problem is
> > that the program aborts during startup. Sometimes I get an error codes
> > like 7097 and 7088. I have been collecting data since 1994 and my .QDF
> > file approximately 45MB. On one computer the data file opened with no
> > problems while on another computer it would abort. Now it aborts on
> > both computers. The computer on which it was working aborted after an
> > online transaction download and now it aborts on startup.
> >
> > When I talked to support people at Quicken, they said that I could only
> > maintian 3 years worth of data at any one time. This CAN'T be true!
> > How do you maintain a cost basis on securities purchased if you have to
> > archive data every three years. I have some investments that were
> > purchased over 20 years ago. If I am using Quicken to keep track of
> > all my expenses, investments, and income what good is it if I have to
> > go to 5 or more different files in order to do any long-term analysis?
> >
> > Does anybody have any ideas of what I can do to solve this problem? I
> > will be very upseet if I lose 12 years worth of data. Does Quicken
> > 2007 solve this problem? Does Microsoft Money suffer from the same
> > data file size problems?
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> > John Novak


Posted by Debbie Becker on September 9, 2006, 11:59 am
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treasur2 wrote:
> John, it could the registry, it could be a bad sector on your hard
> drive (page file, etc.....quicken is a hugggggggggge memory hog), it
> could be a failing memory stick, it could be many, many, many things.
>
I just added an additional 512MB of memory bringing it to 1152MB. It
did not help. At one time, unloading some programs was enough to get
the program to run but that doesn't work any more.

> The first thing I would do to quickly narrow it down would be to
> attempt to run your quicken file from a second PC. Do you have that
> ability........a laptop perhaps, a freinds machine.
>
I have done this. What usually happens is that the program will run
with my data file for a while and then unexpectedly it will crash.
>From this point on it will abort on startup. The thing I don't
understand is what changes on a computer after a certain period of
time, which causes it to crash! It seems that Quicken corrupts
something on that computer making it incompatible with large data
files. The strange thing is that smaller data files work on all of
these computers with no problem. This leads me to the conclusion that
the problem is related to large data files. But large data files run
on some computers and not others, but only for a period of time????
Currently, I have four computers that my large data file will not work
on and one that it does work on. Go figure! The one computer that
works has exactly the same configuration as one that doesn't. The one
with the most memory doesn't work with the large data file.

> Have to load quicken there first, then restore your quicken file. This
> zeros in on the data file vs. the system.
>
I have unistalled and reinstalled Quicken many times. On a few
ocasions this worked, but only for a short period of time. I have
installed the program at different locations to no avail. I have even
moved the data files with no change.

> If you don't have access to a second machine, I'd attempt a second
> approach.
>
> Awaiting your post.
>
>
> John wrote:
> > I have been having a problem with Quicken since Q2005. The problem is
> > that the program aborts during startup. Sometimes I get an error codes
> > like 7097 and 7088. I have been collecting data since 1994 and my .QDF
> > file approximately 45MB. On one computer the data file opened with no
> > problems while on another computer it would abort. Now it aborts on
> > both computers. The computer on which it was working aborted after an
> > online transaction download and now it aborts on startup.
> >
> > When I talked to support people at Quicken, they said that I could only
> > maintian 3 years worth of data at any one time. This CAN'T be true!
> > How do you maintain a cost basis on securities purchased if you have to
> > archive data every three years. I have some investments that were
> > purchased over 20 years ago. If I am using Quicken to keep track of
> > all my expenses, investments, and income what good is it if I have to
> > go to 5 or more different files in order to do any long-term analysis?
> >
> > Does anybody have any ideas of what I can do to solve this problem? I
> > will be very upseet if I lose 12 years worth of data. Does Quicken
> > 2007 solve this problem? Does Microsoft Money suffer from the same
> > data file size problems?
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> > John Novak


Odd as this might sound, have you loaded any drivers or other programs which
included drivers prior to the problem occuring? My husband has had problems
with several programs crashing in the past month (especially when running
large data files) and wasn't able to figure out what had changed. Even an
uninstall and reinstall didn't take care of the issues. Then, last night, I
checked programs running at startup to see if anything looked odd there.
Turns out he updated a printer driver a little over a month ago which loads
components at startup. Unfortunately, it also left the old driver intact and
loading as well. As soon as we disabled startup of the old driver and
rebooted, everything worked fine .. no problems with the files or data size
at all. Since the programs that were crashing didn't involve printing at
all, we had never looked for that connection, but there was obviously some
conflict involved.

Deb



Posted by John on September 11, 2006, 8:55 pm
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Debbie Becker wrote:
>
> treasur2 wrote:
> > John, it could the registry, it could be a bad sector on your hard
> > drive (page file, etc.....quicken is a hugggggggggge memory hog), it
> > could be a failing memory stick, it could be many, many, many things.
> >
> I just added an additional 512MB of memory bringing it to 1152MB. It
> did not help. At one time, unloading some programs was enough to get
> the program to run but that doesn't work any more.
>
> > The first thing I would do to quickly narrow it down would be to
> > attempt to run your quicken file from a second PC. Do you have that
> > ability........a laptop perhaps, a freinds machine.
> >
> I have done this. What usually happens is that the program will run
> with my data file for a while and then unexpectedly it will crash.
> >From this point on it will abort on startup. The thing I don't
> understand is what changes on a computer after a certain period of
> time, which causes it to crash! It seems that Quicken corrupts
> something on that computer making it incompatible with large data
> files. The strange thing is that smaller data files work on all of
> these computers with no problem. This leads me to the conclusion that
> the problem is related to large data files. But large data files run
> on some computers and not others, but only for a period of time????
> Currently, I have four computers that my large data file will not work
> on and one that it does work on. Go figure! The one computer that
> works has exactly the same configuration as one that doesn't. The one
> with the most memory doesn't work with the large data file.
>
> > Have to load quicken there first, then restore your quicken file. This
> > zeros in on the data file vs. the system.
> >
> I have unistalled and reinstalled Quicken many times. On a few
> ocasions this worked, but only for a short period of time. I have
> installed the program at different locations to no avail. I have even
> moved the data files with no change.
>
> > If you don't have access to a second machine, I'd attempt a second
> > approach.
> >
> > Awaiting your post.
> >
> >
> > John wrote:
> > > I have been having a problem with Quicken since Q2005. The problem is
> > > that the program aborts during startup. Sometimes I get an error codes
> > > like 7097 and 7088. I have been collecting data since 1994 and my .QDF
> > > file approximately 45MB. On one computer the data file opened with no
> > > problems while on another computer it would abort. Now it aborts on
> > > both computers. The computer on which it was working aborted after an
> > > online transaction download and now it aborts on startup.
> > >
> > > When I talked to support people at Quicken, they said that I could only
> > > maintian 3 years worth of data at any one time. This CAN'T be true!
> > > How do you maintain a cost basis on securities purchased if you have to
> > > archive data every three years. I have some investments that were
> > > purchased over 20 years ago. If I am using Quicken to keep track of
> > > all my expenses, investments, and income what good is it if I have to
> > > go to 5 or more different files in order to do any long-term analysis?
> > >
> > > Does anybody have any ideas of what I can do to solve this problem? I
> > > will be very upseet if I lose 12 years worth of data. Does Quicken
> > > 2007 solve this problem? Does Microsoft Money suffer from the same
> > > data file size problems?
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance,
> > > John Novak
>
>
> Odd as this might sound, have you loaded any drivers or other programs which
> included drivers prior to the problem occuring? My husband has had problems
> with several programs crashing in the past month (especially when running
> large data files) and wasn't able to figure out what had changed. Even an
> uninstall and reinstall didn't take care of the issues. Then, last night, I
> checked programs running at startup to see if anything looked odd there.
> Turns out he updated a printer driver a little over a month ago which loads
> components at startup. Unfortunately, it also left the old driver intact and
> loading as well. As soon as we disabled startup of the old driver and
> rebooted, everything worked fine .. no problems with the files or data size
> at all. Since the programs that were crashing didn't involve printing at
> all, we had never looked for that connection, but there was obviously some
> conflict involved.
>
> Deb

How do you disable startup programs?

Thanks,
John Novak


Posted by R. C. White on September 12, 2006, 9:15 am
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Hi, John.

> How do you disable startup programs?

Start by finding out WHICH programs are set to run at startup. There are
several places to look, unfortunately, so let's start with the easy one.

I don't recall if you told us which Windows version you are running.
Assuming WinXP: Click Start | Programs | Startup. This should list all the
programs in your Startup folder. Delete (one at a time) any that look
suspicious, then reboot and test. This doesn't delete the program, of
course, but only the shortcut that starts the program, so simply renaming
the shortcut won't work; it will still look for the same executable. One
trick that works is to create a new folder in the Programs listing and name
it something like "No Start", then drag the suspicious program from Startup
to No Start. If you find out that you do need this program, just drag it
back. Or Restore it from the Recycle Bin if you deleted it.

Other ways to run a program - or not - at startup include MSconfig and a few
locations in the Registry. If the simple suggestion doesn't work, post
back.

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
(Retired. No longer licensed to practice public accounting.)
rc@grandecom.net
Microsoft Windows MVP

>
> Debbie Becker wrote:
>>
>> treasur2 wrote:
>> > John, it could the registry, it could be a bad sector on your hard
>> > drive (page file, etc.....quicken is a hugggggggggge memory hog), it
>> > could be a failing memory stick, it could be many, many, many things.
>> >
>> I just added an additional 512MB of memory bringing it to 1152MB. It
>> did not help. At one time, unloading some programs was enough to get
>> the program to run but that doesn't work any more.
>>
>> > The first thing I would do to quickly narrow it down would be to
>> > attempt to run your quicken file from a second PC. Do you have that
>> > ability........a laptop perhaps, a freinds machine.
>> >
>> I have done this. What usually happens is that the program will run
>> with my data file for a while and then unexpectedly it will crash.
>> >From this point on it will abort on startup. The thing I don't
>> understand is what changes on a computer after a certain period of
>> time, which causes it to crash! It seems that Quicken corrupts
>> something on that computer making it incompatible with large data
>> files. The strange thing is that smaller data files work on all of
>> these computers with no problem. This leads me to the conclusion that
>> the problem is related to large data files. But large data files run
>> on some computers and not others, but only for a period of time????
>> Currently, I have four computers that my large data file will not work
>> on and one that it does work on. Go figure! The one computer that
>> works has exactly the same configuration as one that doesn't. The one
>> with the most memory doesn't work with the large data file.
>>
>> > Have to load quicken there first, then restore your quicken file. This
>> > zeros in on the data file vs. the system.
>> >
>> I have unistalled and reinstalled Quicken many times. On a few
>> ocasions this worked, but only for a short period of time. I have
>> installed the program at different locations to no avail. I have even
>> moved the data files with no change.
>>
>> > If you don't have access to a second machine, I'd attempt a second
>> > approach.
>> >
>> > Awaiting your post.
>> >
>> >
>> > John wrote:
>> > > I have been having a problem with Quicken since Q2005. The problem
>> > > is
>> > > that the program aborts during startup. Sometimes I get an error
>> > > codes
>> > > like 7097 and 7088. I have been collecting data since 1994 and my
>> > > .QDF
>> > > file approximately 45MB. On one computer the data file opened with
>> > > no
>> > > problems while on another computer it would abort. Now it aborts on
>> > > both computers. The computer on which it was working aborted after
>> > > an
>> > > online transaction download and now it aborts on startup.
>> > >
>> > > When I talked to support people at Quicken, they said that I could
>> > > only
>> > > maintian 3 years worth of data at any one time. This CAN'T be true!
>> > > How do you maintain a cost basis on securities purchased if you have
>> > > to
>> > > archive data every three years. I have some investments that were
>> > > purchased over 20 years ago. If I am using Quicken to keep track of
>> > > all my expenses, investments, and income what good is it if I have to
>> > > go to 5 or more different files in order to do any long-term
>> > > analysis?
>> > >
>> > > Does anybody have any ideas of what I can do to solve this problem?
>> > > I
>> > > will be very upseet if I lose 12 years worth of data. Does Quicken
>> > > 2007 solve this problem? Does Microsoft Money suffer from the same
>> > > data file size problems?
>> > >
>> > > Thanks in advance,
>> > > John Novak
>>
>>
>> Odd as this might sound, have you loaded any drivers or other programs
>> which
>> included drivers prior to the problem occuring? My husband has had
>> problems
>> with several programs crashing in the past month (especially when running
>> large data files) and wasn't able to figure out what had changed. Even an
>> uninstall and reinstall didn't take care of the issues. Then, last night,
>> I
>> checked programs running at startup to see if anything looked odd there.
>> Turns out he updated a printer driver a little over a month ago which
>> loads
>> components at startup. Unfortunately, it also left the old driver intact
>> and
>> loading as well. As soon as we disabled startup of the old driver and
>> rebooted, everything worked fine .. no problems with the files or data
>> size
>> at all. Since the programs that were crashing didn't involve printing at
>> all, we had never looked for that connection, but there was obviously
>> some
>> conflict involved.
>>
>> Deb
>
> How do you disable startup programs?
>
> Thanks,
> John Novak


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