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Questions for Vista users John Pollard 04-17-2007
Posted by John Pollard on April 17, 2007, 6:17 pm
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1.) Does Vista have Windows Explorer? If not, what is the Vista
equivalent?

2.) Does the Vista Windows Explorer (equivalent) default to
hiding the XP equivalent of "protected operating system files"?

3.) Does the Vista Windows Explorer (equivalent) have a Search
feature? Is there any appreciable difference in the Vista
Search feature from the XP Search feature.

4.) Does Vista have a "Documents and Settings" folder? If not,
is there an equivalent and what is its name?

5.) Does Quicken install folders in the Vista "Documents and
Settings" folder? In both the "All Users" folder and the folder
for each specific Windows user?

6.) Does Quicken install a file named qw.cfg anywhere on your
hard drive for Vista users? If yes, where?

7.) Do any of the answers to the questions above differ if you
are using different flavors of Vista: are the answers different
for users of Vista Home Basic, Vista Home Premium, or Vista
Ultimate?

Thank you in advance.

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John Pollard
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Posted by Margaret on April 17, 2007, 6:57 pm
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Hi John,

I've played a little with QP2007 on Vista Home Premium 32-bit. Here's
what I have found so far:

John Pollard wrote:
> 1.) Does Vista have Windows Explorer? If not, what is the Vista
> equivalent?

Yes.

> 2.) Does the Vista Windows Explorer (equivalent) default to
> hiding the XP equivalent of "protected operating system files"?

IIRC, yes, and I believe that I promptly edited the folder settings to
show all system files, extensions, etc., very similar to what I've done
with XP.

> 3.) Does the Vista Windows Explorer (equivalent) have a Search
> feature? Is there any appreciable difference in the Vista
> Search feature from the XP Search feature.

Yes. It's much more thorough than the XP Search feature. There's a
search window at the bottom of the Start menu, where you can type your
query, quite similar to Google Desktop. However, I've been using Google
Desktop (advanced features turned off), and it seems to be faster and
more lightweight resource-wise. What I'd like to do with Vista is
install fewer utility apps and stick with major applications. We'll see
how Vista's built-in utilities fair over time....

> 4.) Does Vista have a "Documents and Settings" folder? If not,
> is there an equivalent and what is its name?

There's a folder called this, but it's really a shortcut to the C:users
folder. Each user has a subfolder within C:users, and containing (by
default), both user files and profile configuration. It's possible to
move most of these folders to an alternate location, but there's
currently no free TweakUI for Vista, so you must edit the registry to
change the locations. (There's TweakVI, but the pay version has most of
the important tweaks, and IIRC, not the ability to move these folders.)

> 5.) Does Quicken install folders in the Vista "Documents and
> Settings" folder? In both the "All Users" folder and the folder
> for each specific Windows user?

This I'm still figuring out. There are shortcuts w/in C:Users for
"All Users" and "Default User". The shortcut for "Default User" opens
C:usersdefault. I can't see what "All Users" points to, and the
properties isn't telling....

> 6.) Does Quicken install a file named qw.cfg anywhere on your
> hard drive for Vista users? If yes, where?

Yes, it's in C:Program DataIntuitQuicken

> 7.) Do any of the answers to the questions above differ if you
> are using different flavors of Vista: are the answers different
> for users of Vista Home Basic, Vista Home Premium, or Vista
> Ultimate?

This I can't answer, having only hand my hands on Home Premium. From
what I've read about the different flavors, I would think not. But ya
never know.... I'm hoping this will get you started, and that someone
who's been using Vista longer can provide more detail.

By this time after XP came out, I think I was probably using it as my
main OS. Having recently gotten my hands on Vista, I'm feeling a bit
unfamiliar, and I find a number of strange things going on like the
disappearance of my Recycle Bin. So I've resigned myself to using this
installation for learning, figuring it's going to get good and messed
up. Hopefully by then I'll have figured out enough of Vista's
idiosyncrasies that I can do a fresh install after a while and be able
to switch to Vista full-time. For what I've seen, though, QP2007 runs
just fine on Vista. I did finally disable UAC, because it was just too
annoying. I'm hoping MS tweaks this feature to be less so, since I
would prefer to keep all security measures turned on.

Anyway, my 2 cents, hope it helps some....

Regards,

Margaret

Posted by David A. Lessnau on April 17, 2007, 8:06 pm
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Margaret,

Are you sure your QW.CFG is under C:ProgramDataIntuitQuicken? First, I
assume that in your answer, "Program Data" (with a space) is a typo and
should be "ProgramData" (no space). Otherwise, that's a difference between
your version of Vista (Home Premium) and mine (Ultimate). I definitely
don't have a copy under that directory. Mine's under
C:UsersDaveAppDataRoamingIntuitQuickenConfig. Again, if yours is
where you say it is, that's definitely a difference between Home Premium and
Ultimate.






>> 6.) Does Quicken install a file named qw.cfg anywhere on your
>> hard drive for Vista users? If yes, where?
>
> Yes, it's in C:Program DataIntuitQuicken
>


Posted by Margaret on April 17, 2007, 9:47 pm
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David A. Lessnau wrote:
> Margaret,
>
> Are you sure your QW.CFG is under C:ProgramDataIntuitQuicken? First,
> I assume that in your answer, "Program Data" (with a space) is a typo
> and should be "ProgramData" (no space). Otherwise, that's a difference
> between your version of Vista (Home Premium) and mine (Ultimate). I
> definitely don't have a copy under that directory. Mine's under
> C:UsersDaveAppDataRoamingIntuitQuickenConfig. Again, if yours is
> where you say it is, that's definitely a difference between Home Premium
> and Ultimate.

Well I just searched again to be sure, and here's what I found:

1. You are correct, "Program Data" should be "ProgramData". Sorry for
the typo.... And BTW, I'm running as an Admin with UAC turned off.
(Bad, I know, but as I said earlier, this is just a testbed with no real
data on it, and all other security measures are in place.)

2. When I searched previously, I too had to use the advanced search to
search C: and subfolders. It did find qw.cfg, and I could see only
part of the path in the search results. I could see "C:users". But
when I hovered the mouse pointer over it, I got the original path (w/o
typo) shown below. Guess I should have actually navigated to the
folder, because the file's not there!

>> Yes, it's in C:Program DataIntuitQuicken

3. So I just now performed the same exact search, and this time, all
that came up was a *shortcut* to qw.cfg in "Recent Items", which is
C:UsersmewAppDataRoamingMicrosoftWindows. Interestingly, there
was no reference to any qw.cfg at either the first path I provided *or*
your path, David. Anyway, checking out the shortcut properties and
choosing "Open File Location" takes me to
C:UsersmewAppDataRoamingIntuitQuickenConfig. I checked, and sure
enough the file is actually there.

I'm not sure why I saw two different paths (see #2 above), but upon
further digging, I do see there's a file "qwpkg.cfg" in
C:ProgramDataIntuitQuickenConfig. I'm *sure* my original search was
"qw.cfg" and not "qw*.cfg".

What's even stranger is what I found (#3) when I did the additional
search which only returned a shortcut to qw.cfg under recent items. I
set it to search both C: and D: (and subfolders) both times, so I don't
see why I shouldn't see the original file and the shortcut.
Nevertheless, repeated searches continues to show just the shortcut now,
and not the file ... but the file is really in the folder where it
should be.

Oh well. I think I will turn off Google Desktop Search and configure
Vista's built-in search to index my files so I can better test Vista's
search feature. GDS couldn't find qw.cfg *at all*, though it works very
nicely on my XP Pro machine.

At least it looks like both Home Premium and Vista do store qw.cfg in
the same location, although multiple searches have turned up different
results.

Hope this clarifies, and sorry for any confusion.

Regards,

Margaret


Posted by John Pollard on April 17, 2007, 11:20 pm
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Margaret wrote:
> David A. Lessnau wrote:
>> Margaret,
>>
>> Are you sure your QW.CFG is under
>> C:ProgramDataIntuitQuicken? First, I assume that in
>> your answer, "Program Data" (with a space) is a typo and
>> should be "ProgramData" (no space). Otherwise, that's a
>> difference between your version of Vista (Home Premium)
>> and mine (Ultimate). I definitely don't have a copy
>> under that directory. Mine's under
>> C:UsersDaveAppDataRoamingIntuitQuickenConfig. Again,
>> if yours is where you say it is, that's
>> definitely a difference between Home Premium and
>> Ultimate.
>
> Well I just searched again to be sure, and here's what I
> found:
> 1. You are correct, "Program Data" should be
> "ProgramData". Sorry for the typo.... And BTW, I'm
> running as an Admin with UAC turned off. (Bad, I know,
> but as I said earlier, this is just a testbed with no
> real data on it, and all other security measures are in
> place.)
> 2. When I searched previously, I too had to use the
> advanced search to search C: and subfolders. It did
> find qw.cfg, and I could see only part of the path in the
> search results. I could see "C:users". But when I
> hovered the mouse pointer over it, I got the original
> path (w/o typo) shown below. Guess I should have
> actually navigated to the folder, because the file's not
> there!
>>> Yes, it's in C:Program DataIntuitQuicken
>
> 3. So I just now performed the same exact search, and
> this time, all that came up was a *shortcut* to qw.cfg in
> "Recent Items", which is
> C:UsersmewAppDataRoamingMicrosoftWindows. Interestingly,
> there was no reference to any qw.cfg at
> either the first path I provided *or* your path, David.
> Anyway, checking out the shortcut properties and choosing
> "Open File Location" takes me to
> C:UsersmewAppDataRoamingIntuitQuickenConfig. I
> checked, and sure enough the file is actually there.
> I'm not sure why I saw two different paths (see #2
> above), but upon further digging, I do see there's a file
> "qwpkg.cfg" in C:ProgramDataIntuitQuickenConfig. I'm
> *sure* my original search was "qw.cfg" and not "qw*.cfg".
>
> What's even stranger is what I found (#3) when I did the
> additional search which only returned a shortcut to
> qw.cfg under recent items. I set it to search both C:
> and D: (and subfolders) both times, so I don't see why I
> shouldn't see the original file and the shortcut.
> Nevertheless, repeated searches continues to show just
> the shortcut now, and not the file ... but the file is
> really in the folder where it should be.
> Oh well. I think I will turn off Google Desktop Search
> and configure Vista's built-in search to index my files
> so I can better test Vista's search feature. GDS
> couldn't find qw.cfg *at all*, though it works very
> nicely on my XP Pro machine.
> At least it looks like both Home Premium and Vista do
> store qw.cfg in the same location, although multiple
> searches have turned up different results.
>
> Hope this clarifies, and sorry for any confusion.
>
> Regards,
>
> Margaret

Am I right that both of you are running as admins?

If you were running as a limited user (is that a legitimate term
for Vista?) - as a non-admin user, if you like; would you be
able to locate "qw.cfg". Would you be
able to delete it?

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John Pollard
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