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Quicken 2001 can't open my recent files dgwinter 04-10-2008
Posted by dgwinter on April 10, 2008, 9:36 pm
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I'm using Q 2001. In the last few weeks, every time I start it, it
acts like its never been run before. I close it and copy my last
backup into the Accounts folder and then its OK. Does this sound
familiar to anybody and if so, is there any way to fix it?

Posted by R. C. White on April 11, 2008, 9:26 am
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Hi, dgwinter.

What "Accounts folder"?

Please tell us more about this folder. I've been using Quicken for over a
dozen years and I don't have an Accounts folder. Where is your Accounts
folder located? Is it within the Quicken folder? Did you manually create
this one yourself, or did Quicken create it? (It has been several years
since I used Q2001, so I may have forgotten the Accounts folder if there
ever was one.)

There is an Accounts listing within Quicken, of course, but it is not
accessible from outside Quicken, so there's no way to close Quicken and
"copy...[a] backup into" it. So I can't picture what you say you are doing.

It sounds like you should click Quicken's File | Restore Backup File... and
select that latest backup file. Be sure to Restore the backup file; do not
Open it. Then, when you are ready to close Quicken, don't do anything
special. Don't even do another Backup. Just File | Exit - or click the X
in the upper right corner. Then, start Quicken normally again. It should
start with that current file already loaded. (As I recall, Q2001 still kept
the current working fileset (*.qdf, etc.) in the Quicken folder, right
alongside QW.EXE and all those other program files. And all the automatic
backup files were in QuickenBACKUP.)

By the way, in addition to telling us you are using Q2001, it would help to
also mention if you are running Win98, WinXP, Vista - or some other
operating system. That doesn't always matter, but sometimes it does.

RC
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San Marcos, TX
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rc@grandecom.net
Microsoft Windows MVP
(Currently running Quicken 2008 Deluxe in Vista Ultimate x64 SP1)

> I'm using Q 2001. In the last few weeks, every time I start it, it
> acts like its never been run before. I close it and copy my last
> backup into the Accounts folder and then its OK. Does this sound
> familiar to anybody and if so, is there any way to fix it?


Posted by dgwinter on April 12, 2008, 11:55 pm
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> Hi, dgwinter.
>
> What "Accounts folder"?
>
> Please tell us more about this folder. I've been using Quicken for over a
> dozen years and I don't have an Accounts folder. Where is your Accounts
> folder located? Is it within the Quicken folder? Did you manually create
> this one yourself, or did Quicken create it? (It has been several years
> since I used Q2001, so I may have forgotten the Accounts folder if there
> ever was one.)
>
> There is an Accounts listing within Quicken, of course, but it is not
> accessible from outside Quicken, so there's no way to close Quicken and
> "copy...[a] backup into" it. So I can't picture what you say you are doing.
>
> It sounds like you should click Quicken's File | Restore Backup File... and
> select that latest backup file. Be sure to Restore the backup file; do not
> Open it. Then, when you are ready to close Quicken, don't do anything
> special. Don't even do another Backup. Just File | Exit - or click the X
> in the upper right corner. Then, start Quicken normally again. It should
> start with that current file already loaded. (As I recall, Q2001 still kept
> the current working fileset (*.qdf, etc.) in the Quicken folder, right
> alongside QW.EXE and all those other program files. And all the automatic
> backup files were in QuickenBACKUP.)
>
> By the way, in addition to telling us you are using Q2001, it would help to
> also mention if you are running Win98, WinXP, Vista - or some other
> operating system. That doesn't always matter, but sometimes it does.
>
> RC
> --
> R. C. White, CPA
> San Marcos, TX
> (Retired. No longer licensed to practice public accounting.)
> r...@grandecom.net
> Microsoft Windows MVP
> (Currently running Quicken 2008 Deluxe in Vista Ultimate x64 SP1)
>
>
>
> > I'm using Q 2001. In the last few weeks, every time I start it, it
> > acts like its never been run before. I close it and copy my last
> > backup into the Accounts folder and then its OK. Does this sound
> > familiar to anybody and if so, is there any way to fix it?

I don't remember anymore if I created the ACCOUNTS folder or not. It
has the account files (QDF, etc.) in it and a backup folder where the
last nine backups are stored. I backup every time I run Q because over
the years I have had it pull this on me periodically and having a
backup from the last run has saved me a lot of time. Only recently has
it done this every time I start Q. Its in My DocumentsQuicken
ACCOUNTS.
And its XP Pro. I develop and support Win apps, I should know by now
to include the OS.

Posted by R. C. White on April 20, 2008, 10:47 pm
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Hi, dgwinter.

Sorry for the delay in responding. I was at the Microsoft MVP Global Summit
this week. Surrounded by computers, but with almost no access to one.

> I don't remember anymore if I created the ACCOUNTS folder or not. It
> has the account files (QDF, etc.) in it and a backup folder where the
> last nine backups are stored. I backup every time I run Q because over

Quicken never created a folder named ACCOUNTS, so far as I know. In
Quicken-speak, Accounts are internal components of the Quicken "file"
(actually a set of related files, as I'm sure you know). Quicken does
create a subfolder called BACKUPS, where it stores the automatic backups (5
by default, but choices are from 1 to 9) that it makes every 7 days. These
automatic backups are in addition to whatever backups you choose to make.
You can make as many backups as you like and put them anywhere that you
like. Quicken will remind you to make these additional backups; it reminds
you every 3rd time you exit the application without backing up. (You can
change the default 3 to any number from 0 - for no reminders - to 99.)

In addition to all those automatic and manual backups, there is always one
more copy of your Quicken file, of course, and that is the current working
file. By default, this current fileset is kept right in the C:Program
FilesQuicken folder, along with all the program files, such as qw.exe, plus
the BACKUP subfolder and other subfolders.

My guess is that you created the ACCOUNTS folder and told Quicken to keep
your current fileset there, so that's where Quicken created the BACKUP
folder. You may have also directed your manual backups to that folder, but
that's a bad idea because any disaster that wipes out your current file will
probably take all your backups with it, too. :>( Let Quicken put the
automatic backups there, but put all your additional backups in some
separate location, such as a CD/DVD or USB thumb drive that can be stored
safely away from the computer.

And don't ever Open your Backup file. If you must resort to the backup, use
File | Restore Backup File, then immediately backup the restored file under
your working filename to your current manual backup folder. (I'm using
Q2008D, so your menu may be slightly different.)

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
(Retired. No longer licensed to practice public accounting.)
rc@grandecom.net
Microsoft Windows MVP
(Currently running Quicken 2008 Deluxe in Vista Ultimate x64 SP1)

>> Hi, dgwinter.
>>
>> What "Accounts folder"?
>>
>> Please tell us more about this folder. I've been using Quicken for over
>> a
>> dozen years and I don't have an Accounts folder. Where is your Accounts
>> folder located? Is it within the Quicken folder? Did you manually
>> create
>> this one yourself, or did Quicken create it? (It has been several years
>> since I used Q2001, so I may have forgotten the Accounts folder if there
>> ever was one.)
>>
>> There is an Accounts listing within Quicken, of course, but it is not
>> accessible from outside Quicken, so there's no way to close Quicken and
>> "copy...[a] backup into" it. So I can't picture what you say you are
>> doing.
>>
>> It sounds like you should click Quicken's File | Restore Backup File...
>> and
>> select that latest backup file. Be sure to Restore the backup file; do
>> not
>> Open it. Then, when you are ready to close Quicken, don't do anything
>> special. Don't even do another Backup. Just File | Exit - or click the
>> X
>> in the upper right corner. Then, start Quicken normally again. It
>> should
>> start with that current file already loaded. (As I recall, Q2001 still
>> kept
>> the current working fileset (*.qdf, etc.) in the Quicken folder, right
>> alongside QW.EXE and all those other program files. And all the
>> automatic
>> backup files were in QuickenBACKUP.)
>>
>> By the way, in addition to telling us you are using Q2001, it would help
>> to
>> also mention if you are running Win98, WinXP, Vista - or some other
>> operating system. That doesn't always matter, but sometimes it does.
>>
>> RC
>>
>>
>>
>> > I'm using Q 2001. In the last few weeks, every time I start it, it
>> > acts like its never been run before. I close it and copy my last
>> > backup into the Accounts folder and then its OK. Does this sound
>> > familiar to anybody and if so, is there any way to fix it?
>
> I don't remember anymore if I created the ACCOUNTS folder or not. It
> has the account files (QDF, etc.) in it and a backup folder where the
> last nine backups are stored. I backup every time I run Q because over
> the years I have had it pull this on me periodically and having a
> backup from the last run has saved me a lot of time. Only recently has
> it done this every time I start Q. Its in My DocumentsQuicken
> ACCOUNTS.
> And its XP Pro. I develop and support Win apps, I should know by now
> to include the OS.


Posted by Andrew Rossmann on April 11, 2008, 4:52 pm
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[This followup was posted to alt.comp.software.financial.quicken and a
copy was sent to the cited author.]

In article <9158c2de-84cd-4ee4-885e-
f05c915e6e6f@w8g2000prd.googlegroups.com>, dgwinter@gmail.com says...
> I'm using Q 2001. In the last few weeks, every time I start it, it
> acts like its never been run before. I close it and copy my last
> backup into the Accounts folder and then its OK. Does this sound
> familiar to anybody and if so, is there any way to fix it?

This sounds like an old bug which appears to have been fixed in newer
versions. If the archive bit is cleared on some of the quicken data
files when on an NTFS partition, it won't recognize them. The archive
bit is often cleared by backup programs.

To set the archive bit, use Windows Explorer to go to the directory with
your data files. Select the files, right-click, and choose Properties.
On that page should be an 'archive' checkbox. Check it on (if it's gray,
click it until it's black), then apply.

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