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Posted by John Talbot on December 3, 2006, 11:25 pm
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>
>How about simply copying the files from the flash drive to the HDD folder
>you want them in?
>Make sure Quicken is NOT running, select all of the relevant files from the
>flash drive and drag them to the HDD folder. Make sure there is a little
>plus sign showing near the file icons to indicate you are copying them, not
>moving them. (The only reason I suggest copying them is so you still have
>working files on the flash drive in case something goes wrong in this
>process.)
>Then go to the HDD folder, doubleclick on the correct file and Quicken
>should open up there.
>Might be a good idea to remove the flash drive before you do this, just to
>avoid the possibility of confusion.
>
Thanks mightily for responding so helpfully.
I hadn't paid much attention to whether Quicken was running or not
when i copied the files from the flash drive to the HDD, so your
message filled me with much hope.
Alas, copying with Quicken shut down and then removing the flash
drive before restarting Quicken has made no difference - all is
still gloom and doom/
A passing thought only - I think Quicken 2004 came out before the
NTFS file system as the norm. The flash drive is, of course,
configured with FAT32, Is it possible this may be a factor. (I
can't see it myself, but I'm scraping the barrel/)
>
>
>>I installed Quicken 2004 Personal Plus on a second PC (P4 2.4, XP
>> Pro, 1GB RAM, lotsa HDD space).
>>
>> I transferred the data files from the original PC using a removable
>> flash drive (drive J).
>>
>> Quicken opens the files directly from that drive J: without any
>> problem, but then saves updated files back there again and not to
>> C:Quicken 2004 as one might expect.
>>
>> Backing up data to a folder on the HDD is reported as successful,
>> and the files themselves look ok as to size and date, but all
>> attempts to restore or open from that folder are met with "Cannot
>> open file".
>>
>> Thus the only way I can operate is from the single copy of the data
>> on the flash drive, which is scarcely a sound situation.
>>
>> I'd be most grateful for any pointers, clues or advice.
***********
John Talbot
***********
>
>
>How about simply copying the files from the flash drive to the HDD folder
>you want them in?
>Make sure Quicken is NOT running, select all of the relevant files from the
>flash drive and drag them to the HDD folder. Make sure there is a little
>plus sign showing near the file icons to indicate you are copying them, not
>moving them. (The only reason I suggest copying them is so you still have
>working files on the flash drive in case something goes wrong in this
>process.)
>Then go to the HDD folder, doubleclick on the correct file and Quicken
>should open up there.
>Might be a good idea to remove the flash drive before you do this, just to
>avoid the possibility of confusion.
>
Thanks mightily for responding so helpfully.
I hadn't paid much attention to whether Quicken was running or not
when i copied the files from the flash drive to the HDD, so your
message filled me with much hope.
Alas, copying with Quicken shut down and then removing the flash
drive before restarting Quicken has made no difference - all is
still gloom and doom/
A passing thought only - I think Quicken 2004 came out before the
NTFS file system as the norm. The flash drive is, of course,
configured with FAT32, Is it possible this may be a factor. (I
can't see it myself, but I'm scraping the barrel/)
>
>
>>I installed Quicken 2004 Personal Plus on a second PC (P4 2.4, XP
>> Pro, 1GB RAM, lotsa HDD space).
>>
>> I transferred the data files from the original PC using a removable
>> flash drive (drive J).
>>
>> Quicken opens the files directly from that drive J: without any
>
>
>How about simply copying the files from the flash drive to the HDD folder
>you want them in?
>Make sure Quicken is NOT running, select all of the relevant files from the
>flash drive and drag them to the HDD folder. Make sure there is a little
>plus sign showing near the file icons to indicate you are copying them, not
>moving them. (The only reason I suggest copying them is so you still have
>working files on the flash drive in case something goes wrong in this
>process.)
>Then go to the HDD folder, doubleclick on the correct file and Quicken
>should open up there.
>Might be a good idea to remove the flash drive before you do this, just to
>avoid the possibility of confusion.
>
Thanks mightily for responding so helpfully.
I hadn't paid much attention to whether Quicken was running or not
when i copied the files from the flash drive to the HDD, so your
message filled me with much hope.
Alas, copying with Quicken shut down and then removing the flash
drive before restarting Quicken has made no difference - all is
still gloom and doom/
A passing thought only - I think Quicken 2004 came out before the
NTFS file system as the norm. The flash drive is, of course,
configured with FAT32, Is it possible this may be a factor. (I
can't see it myself, but I'm scraping the barrel/)
>
>
>>I installed Quicken 2004 Personal Plus on a second PC (P4 2.4, XP
>> Pro, 1GB RAM, lotsa HDD space).
>>
>> I transferred the data files from the original PC using a removable
>> flash drive (drive J).
>>
>> Quicken opens the files directly from that drive J: without any
>> problem, but then saves updated files back there again and not to
>> C:Quicken 2004 as one might expect.
>>
>> Backing up data to a folder on the HDD is reported as successful,
>> and the files themselves look ok as to size and date, but all
>> attempts to restore or open from that folder are met with "Cannot
>> open file".
>>
>> Thus the only way I can operate is from the single copy of the data
>> on the flash drive, which is scarcely a sound situation.
>>
>> I'd be most grateful for any pointers, clues or advice.
***********
John Talbot
***********
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Posted by R. C. White on December 4, 2006, 10:01 am
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Hi, John.
DP's solution should have worked. But you know that, I'm sure. So we'll
have to dig deeper.
> I think Quicken 2004 came out before the
> NTFS file system as the norm. The flash drive is, of course,
> configured with FAT32, Is it possible this may be a factor. (I
> can't see it myself, but I'm scraping the barrel/)
No, Quicken doesn't care (or even know) whether the data storage space is
NTFS or FAT. And NTFS was the default file system in Windows 2000, over 3
years before Q2004 appeared. Only small (by today's standards) devices
still typically use FATx.
My suggestion would be to boot into Q2004, then click File | Open and browse
to your J: drive and click on the *.qdf file. Then <Ctrl>+B and, for the
destination, Browse to the folder you want on your HDD. After you get the
confirmation that Backup was successful, Exit Quicken. Then, in Windows
Explorer, browse to that folder on your HDD and click on the *.qdf file.
That should start Quicken with your fileset loaded. Then you can <Ctrl.>+B
and Backup from there to your choice of new Backup location. You can Backup
to J: again after you are sure that you have a dependable working copy on
your HDD.
If that doesn't work, please include your step-by-step procedures in your
next post. Especially, tell us which Quicken steps you are using - or which
other methods you are using to copy your files (Windows Explorer? Command
Prompt window with Copy? Or Xcopy? Or something else/) You ARE moving ALL
the related files, right? (.qtx, .qel, etc., in addition to .qdf) I THINK
I know what you did, but I may be missing the critical clue.
RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
(Retired. No longer licensed to practice public accounting.)
rc@grandecom.net
Microsoft Windows MVP
(Currently running Vista x64)
>
>>
>>
>>How about simply copying the files from the flash drive to the HDD folder
>>you want them in?
>>Make sure Quicken is NOT running, select all of the relevant files from
>>the
>>flash drive and drag them to the HDD folder. Make sure there is a little
>>plus sign showing near the file icons to indicate you are copying them,
>>not
>>moving them. (The only reason I suggest copying them is so you still have
>>working files on the flash drive in case something goes wrong in this
>>process.)
>>Then go to the HDD folder, doubleclick on the correct file and Quicken
>>should open up there.
>>Might be a good idea to remove the flash drive before you do this, just to
>>avoid the possibility of confusion.
>>
> Thanks mightily for responding so helpfully.
>
> I hadn't paid much attention to whether Quicken was running or not
> when i copied the files from the flash drive to the HDD, so your
> message filled me with much hope.
>
> Alas, copying with Quicken shut down and then removing the flash
> drive before restarting Quicken has made no difference - all is
> still gloom and doom/
>
> A passing thought only - I think Quicken 2004 came out before the
> NTFS file system as the norm. The flash drive is, of course,
> configured with FAT32, Is it possible this may be a factor. (I
> can't see it myself, but I'm scraping the barrel/)
>>
>>
>>>I installed Quicken 2004 Personal Plus on a second PC (P4 2.4, XP
>>> Pro, 1GB RAM, lotsa HDD space).
>>>
>>> I transferred the data files from the original PC using a removable
>>> flash drive (drive J).
>>>
>>> Quicken opens the files directly from that drive J: without any
>>> problem, but then saves updated files back there again and not to
>>> C:Quicken 2004 as one might expect.
>>>
>>> Backing up data to a folder on the HDD is reported as successful,
>>> and the files themselves look ok as to size and date, but all
>>> attempts to restore or open from that folder are met with "Cannot
>>> open file".
>>>
>>> Thus the only way I can operate is from the single copy of the data
>>> on the flash drive, which is scarcely a sound situation.
>>>
>>> I'd be most grateful for any pointers, clues or advice.
>
>
> ***********
> John Talbot
> ***********
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Posted by John Talbot on December 5, 2006, 7:36 am
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>DP's solution should have worked. But you know that, I'm sure. So we'll
>have to dig deeper.
>
>> I think Quicken 2004 came out before the
>> NTFS file system as the norm. The flash drive is, of course,
>> configured with FAT32, Is it possible this may be a factor. (I
>> can't see it myself, but I'm scraping the barrel/)
>
>No, Quicken doesn't care (or even know) whether the data storage space is
>NTFS or FAT. And NTFS was the default file system in Windows 2000, over 3
>years before Q2004 appeared. Only small (by today's standards) devices
>still typically use FATx.
I rather thought that to be the case, but was clutching at straws.
>
>My suggestion would be to boot into Q2004, then click File | Open and browse
>to your J: drive and click on the *.qdf file. Then <Ctrl>+B and, for the
>destination, Browse to the folder you want on your HDD. After you get the
>confirmation that Backup was successful, Exit Quicken. Then, in Windows
>Explorer, browse to that folder on your HDD and click on the *.qdf file.
>That should start Quicken with your fileset loaded. Then you can <Ctrl.>+B
>and Backup from there to your choice of new Backup location. You can Backup
>to J: again after you are sure that you have a dependable working copy on
>your HDD
I hadn't tried to start by clicking on the backed-up (or
straight-copied) *.qdf file. Rather, I had opened Quicken and then
navigated via File | Open or File | Restore Backup File to one of
the many copies of that file that I'd created by copying or backing
up. None of them would open or restore, irrespective of their
method of creation.
>
>If that doesn't work, please include your step-by-step procedures in your
>next post. Especially, tell us which Quicken steps you are using - or which
>other methods you are using to copy your files (Windows Explorer? Command
>Prompt window with Copy? Or Xcopy? Or something else/) You ARE moving ALL
>the related files, right? (.qtx, .qel, etc., in addition to .qdf) I THINK
>I know what you did, but I may be missing the critical clue.
>
>RC
Thanks for those cogent and cluey suggestions.
I rely on dragging and dropping to move or copy files. I hadn't
thought that the Command Prompt or XCopy methods would offer any
advantage.
Yes, a long time ago I sweated through the whole of Windows looking
for Intuit-related files and made careful note of their names and
precise locations. It's of course an 'elluva bind to seek them out
and copy them across in practice, but in the past I've done it with
reasonable success: last time (a year or more ago) the only things
missing were the icons on the horizontal menu bar, but inserting the
CD and running a reinstall fixed them.
My current situation is that I have deleted every vestige of Quicken
2004 that I could find from my new PC. I then tried installing
afresh from my Quicken 2004 Disc, but it won't accept that because
it can't find an earlier version present; ergo, my CD is an upgrade
version!
I suppose I could go back to my Quicken 2002 CD, try to install
that, then see if the 2004 disc would install, but I fear me that
the 2002 disc was itself an upgrade and I've long since thrown away
the floppies going back to the 1980s when I first began with the
program.
Therefore my current intention is to drag-and-drop the old PC's
Quicken 2004 folder (plus as many Intuit-related files as I can find
in Windows, Windows|System and Windows|System 32) across my LAN to
the new PC. I'll then use the CD to install anything still missing
by writing over-the-top; it should recognise the existing program
and thus not object to doing its job.
I'm most grateful for your interest and expertise in this area; the
mere fact that you posted at all improves my confidence and optimism
no end!
I'll let you know how I go!
PS Since drafting the above I have carried out my intentions and
thereby improved my situation considerably. A parallel posting will
spell out the detail if you can bear to wade through it!
***********
John Talbot
***********
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Posted by R. C. White on December 5, 2006, 10:59 am
Please log in for more thread options Hi, John.
You're working WAAAYY too hard! And confusing both Quicken and yourself
(and me) in the process.
Now that you have Q2005 installed and working (except for accessing your
data) on your new computer, and your data safely on your thumb drive, your
path to the future should be very clear and easy.
As suggested by me and DP and Erich, FORGET all the manual transfers of data
files that you have made! Just start Q2005. Click File | Restore from
backup... and Browse to the data folder on your thumb drive. Click the QDF
file and let Quicken load that; it will automatically carry along the
related files that it needs. Once the file is loaded. explore it briefly to
be sure that it seems to be complete. Then press <Ctrl>+B (or click Backup
or click File | Backup). For the Destination, Browse to your chosen
location FOLDER (NOT the actual filename) and click OK. Then Exit Quicken.
You should now have 3 identical sets of your Quicken data files. The actual
working copy, which will be kept up-to-the-minute with no action required on
your part, is in C:Program FilesQuickenWQDATA.QDF (and related QDATA.*
files). Another copy will be in the Destination you chose in Backup, above.
And the third copy is still on your thumb drive.
A week after you install Quicken, it will automatically create (if it
doesn't already exist) a new folder called C:Program FilesQuickenWBACKUP
and store a copy of your fileset with the names QDATA1.*. The following
week, it will rename QDATA1 to QDATA2 and store an updated copy of QDATA as
QDATA1. After 5 weeks (unless you change the default number in
Preferences), you will have 5 sets of backup files, dated a week apart, and
named from QDATA5 (the oldest) to QDATA1 (the newest). After 6 weeks,
QDATA5 will be deleted, the other sets' names will be incremented and the
new set will be saved as QDATA1.
When we let Quicken handle our data file, it automatically includes the
entire fileset. When we use any other tool, we must remember to handle ALL
the files - and some of them have extensions that don't include Q - or at
least, in some years they did. But when we try to round up the whole set,
we might not recognize some of them, but Quicken will. Drag'n'drop is a
great tool, but not for this job. And we don't need "Intuit-related files".
We need only the files containing our unique DATA. All the rest of the
files can be installed from the CD or downloaded as Updates or rebuilt
on-the-fly by Quicken as it installs and runs.
Let us know what happens when you follow these steps.
(PS: There's NO need to email me a copy of your newsgroup posts.
Netiquette frowns on email responses to newsgroup messages unless email is
specifically invited or the subject veers from the topic of the newsgroup.
I'm not sure how Forte handles this, but in Outlook Express or Windows Mail,
we click Reply Group, not Reply All, which sends email in addition to the
post.)
RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
(Retired. No longer licensed to practice public accounting.)
rc@grandecom.net
Microsoft Windows MVP
(Currently running Vista Ultimate x64)
> wrote:
>
>>DP's solution should have worked. But you know that, I'm sure. So we'll
>>have to dig deeper.
>>
>>> I think Quicken 2004 came out before the
>>> NTFS file system as the norm. The flash drive is, of course,
>>> configured with FAT32, Is it possible this may be a factor. (I
>>> can't see it myself, but I'm scraping the barrel/)
>>
>>No, Quicken doesn't care (or even know) whether the data storage space is
>>NTFS or FAT. And NTFS was the default file system in Windows 2000, over 3
>>years before Q2004 appeared. Only small (by today's standards) devices
>>still typically use FATx.
>
> I rather thought that to be the case, but was clutching at straws.
>>
>>My suggestion would be to boot into Q2004, then click File | Open and
>>browse
>>to your J: drive and click on the *.qdf file. Then <Ctrl>+B and, for the
>>destination, Browse to the folder you want on your HDD. After you get the
>>confirmation that Backup was successful, Exit Quicken. Then, in Windows
>>Explorer, browse to that folder on your HDD and click on the *.qdf file.
>>That should start Quicken with your fileset loaded. Then you can
>><Ctrl.>+B
>>and Backup from there to your choice of new Backup location. You can
>>Backup
>>to J: again after you are sure that you have a dependable working copy on
>>your HDD
>
> I hadn't tried to start by clicking on the backed-up (or
> straight-copied) *.qdf file. Rather, I had opened Quicken and then
> navigated via File | Open or File | Restore Backup File to one of
> the many copies of that file that I'd created by copying or backing
> up. None of them would open or restore, irrespective of their
> method of creation.
>>
>>If that doesn't work, please include your step-by-step procedures in your
>>next post. Especially, tell us which Quicken steps you are using - or
>>which
>>other methods you are using to copy your files (Windows Explorer? Command
>>Prompt window with Copy? Or Xcopy? Or something else/) You ARE moving
>>ALL
>>the related files, right? (.qtx, .qel, etc., in addition to .qdf) I
>>THINK
>>I know what you did, but I may be missing the critical clue.
>>
>>RC
>
> Thanks for those cogent and cluey suggestions.
>
> I rely on dragging and dropping to move or copy files. I hadn't
> thought that the Command Prompt or XCopy methods would offer any
> advantage.
>
> Yes, a long time ago I sweated through the whole of Windows looking
> for Intuit-related files and made careful note of their names and
> precise locations. It's of course an 'elluva bind to seek them out
> and copy them across in practice, but in the past I've done it with
> reasonable success: last time (a year or more ago) the only things
> missing were the icons on the horizontal menu bar, but inserting the
> CD and running a reinstall fixed them.
>
> My current situation is that I have deleted every vestige of Quicken
> 2004 that I could find from my new PC. I then tried installing
> afresh from my Quicken 2004 Disc, but it won't accept that because
> it can't find an earlier version present; ergo, my CD is an upgrade
> version!
>
> I suppose I could go back to my Quicken 2002 CD, try to install
> that, then see if the 2004 disc would install, but I fear me that
> the 2002 disc was itself an upgrade and I've long since thrown away
> the floppies going back to the 1980s when I first began with the
> program.
>
> Therefore my current intention is to drag-and-drop the old PC's
> Quicken 2004 folder (plus as many Intuit-related files as I can find
> in Windows, Windows|System and Windows|System 32) across my LAN to
> the new PC. I'll then use the CD to install anything still missing
> by writing over-the-top; it should recognise the existing program
> and thus not object to doing its job.
>
> I'm most grateful for your interest and expertise in this area; the
> mere fact that you posted at all improves my confidence and optimism
> no end!
>
> I'll let you know how I go!
>
> PS Since drafting the above I have carried out my intentions and
> thereby improved my situation considerably. A parallel posting will
> spell out the detail if you can bear to wade through it!
> ***********
> John Talbot
> ***********
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Posted by DP on December 5, 2006, 2:46 am
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>
>>
>>
>>How about simply copying the files from the flash drive to the HDD folder
>>you want them in?
>>Make sure Quicken is NOT running, select all of the relevant files from
>>the
>>flash drive and drag them to the HDD folder. Make sure there is a little
>>plus sign showing near the file icons to indicate you are copying them,
>>not
>>moving them. (The only reason I suggest copying them is so you still have
>>working files on the flash drive in case something goes wrong in this
>>process.)
>>Then go to the HDD folder, doubleclick on the correct file and Quicken
>>should open up there.
>>Might be a good idea to remove the flash drive before you do this, just to
>>avoid the possibility of confusion.
>>
> Thanks mightily for responding so helpfully.
>
> I hadn't paid much attention to whether Quicken was running or not
> when i copied the files from the flash drive to the HDD, so your
> message filled me with much hope.
>
> Alas, copying with Quicken shut down and then removing the flash
> drive before restarting Quicken has made no difference - all is
> still gloom and doom/
>
It's possible you did what I'm about to say (repeating advice in my
original post), though I can't tell for sure from the wording of your reply.
Once you've copied the files to your HDD, do NOT restart Quicken.
Instead, go to the place on your HDD where you copied the files and then
double-click on the file with the QDF extension.
That should open Quicken to the QDF file that's on your HDD. And when you
close out Quicken, it should update THAT file.
Is that what you did?
Also, you say the method I proposed "made no difference." Can you clarify?
It had to have made SOME difference. Your problem was it was refiling the
data file to your flash drive. But if you've removed the flash drive, it
can't possibly be doing that. So, what is it doing instead?
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