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Quicken 2008 Deluxe Vista 64 bit - Couple of questions Don 02-29-2008
Posted by GSalisbury on February 29, 2008, 8:23 am
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> Hey gang,
>
> I run Quicken 2008 Deluxe, on XP Pro 32 bit.
> Last weekend, I installed Vista 64 bit Ultimate, on it's own hard drive,
> to dual boot with XP Pro. Mainly to just play around with Vista 64 bit,
> but finding I am liking it more and more. I am curious on couple of
> things.
>
> 1: Will Quicken 2008 run ok on Vista 64 bit? I have done some searching,
> it appears perhaps the main problem would be getting it to print, may have
> to print to pdf first. That is no biggie to me, as I don't do a lot of
> printing from within Quicken. I do download my financial data from my
> bank's website on a daily basis. Anyone running Quicken 2008 that is doing
> this, with no issue on Vista 64 bit?
>
> 2: Should I decide to install Quicken on my Vista 64 bit install, I would
> prefer to continue to run it on my XP Pro install as well, run in parallel
> so to speak for a while. I could see myself eventually migrating to Vista
> as my main OS, but want to give it time first.
> Right now, Vista is on it's own hard drive, when I boot into Vista it
> see's the Vista partition as drive C, and I have another partition on that
> drive for data as well. My XP Pro install is on another hard drive, and of
> course when I boot into XP Pro it sees it's partition as drive C, and the
> Vista partition on the other drive changes to like drive L.
> Could Quicken 2008, be successfully installed on Vista, and run in both
> Vista and XP in this scenario, or would I run into major conflicts?
>
> Thanks for any feedback here,
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Don
FYI,
Coincidentally, WindowsSecrets.com's (used to be LangaList) most recent free
newsletter has a discourse on dual-booting Vista/XP and sharing
drive/folders etc. so it seems you could use the same Qkn dataset from
either - but, of course, still not at the same time.



Posted by Don on February 29, 2008, 8:25 am
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"GSalisbury" <salsburyg at comcast dot net> wrote in message


> FYI,
> Coincidentally, WindowsSecrets.com's (used to be LangaList) most recent
> free newsletter has a discourse on dual-booting Vista/XP and sharing
> drive/folders etc. so it seems you could use the same Qkn dataset from
> either - but, of course, still not at the same time.
>


Thanks for that info, I will have to check that out.



--
Don


Posted by R. C. White on February 29, 2008, 11:00 am
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Hi, Don.

Throughout the Vista beta (8/05 to RTM in 11/06), I ran Quicken 2005, 2006
and/or 2007 in each successive build of Vista, both 32-bit and 64-bit, and
dual-booted into WinXP Pro and sometimes WinXP 64-bit, too. No significant
problems - except for some hassles with installation of a new Quicken
Release at one point. I haven't run WinXP in over a year. I've run
(almost) nothing but Vista Ultimate x64 since November 2006, but dual-booted
regularly for nearly 10 years before that. I installed Quicken 2008 Deluxe
several months ago and have had no problems installing it or running it with
Vista x64. I very seldom print anything from Quicken, but have not had any
problems when I did print. I'm using an 8-year-old HP OfficeJet G55
Printer/Scanner/Copier with USB interface. I don't download transactions
very much, but have recently added a couple of bank accounts to my daily One
Step Update. I've downloaded price quotes daily for years with no problems
except those occasional lapses that we've all experienced and griped about
here.

Many years ago, probably when I first dual-booted WinNT4 and Win95 in about
1998, I began using multiple partitions and logical drives. I put Win9x on
C:, Apps on D:, Data on E:, Archives on F:, WinNT on G;, etc. After many
migrations, reformats, new hard drives, etc., in the decade since, Drive E:
is still my Data drive - but it also holds many of my apps as well,
including Quicken. (I always reserve the first partition on the first HD -
traditionally Drive C:, but not always, especially with Vista - as the
System Partition for just the few startup files, and never install
Windows/Vista in that partition; it always goes to a separate volume and
possibly to a second or third hard drive. Then I can get rid of a beta
build or retire an old OS version or reorganize my file system by
reformatting that volume - without disturbing my startup files and dual-boot
menu on the System Partition. "Drive" letters get reassigned quite often,
so I don't get hung up on those, and neither does Windows.)

Until WinXP x64, Drive E: also held my Program Files folder, and that was
shared by all the Windows versions that I had installed at the time. I
would boot into Win2K and install Office (for example) in E:Program
FilesOffice; then I would boot into WinXP and install Office again into the
same folder. Each OS would make entries in its own Registry, but they would
share a single set of program files, including most of my "tweaks". I could
start a letter in Win2K in the morning and finish that same letter in WinXP
in the afternoon. That plan worked well until 64-bit Windows - first WinXP
x64 and now Vista x64 - introduced a separate folder for 64-bit
applications. The familiar "Program Files" folder holds 64-bit apps and
our 32-bit apps are pushed into a new folder called "Program Files (x86)".
The x86, as I learned too late, refers to Intel's CPU family that began with
the 8086 and ended with the 80486 before Pentium - all 32-bit chips. This
makes it very hard to try to share a common set of executable files with
Vista x86 looking in PF for 32-bit apps and Vista x64 looking to the same PF
folder for 64-bit apps. :>( Luckily, disk space has become so plentiful
and cheap that I can now afford double installations of Office on each Boot
Volume, but I miss the ability to share a single installation between two or
more Windows versions.

Fortunately for me, I had used E:QuickenW for years, ever since Quicken for
Windows replaced the MS-DOS version. Even now, I've installed Q2008 there
twice, once from Vista x86 and again from Vista x64. Both Windows versions
happily use the same copy of Quicken and I don't have to try to synchronize
my Preferences between two copies. ;<) And I can still write checks from
WinXP x86 in the morning and reconcile that bank account in Vista x64 in the
afternoon. (Well, I could and did, until my WinXP stopped working.) So
long as both WinXP x86 and Vista x64 can see that folder, it won't matter if
WinXP calls it E:Quicken and Vista thinks it's L:Quicken.

(On a side note, when we boot from the Vista DVD to run Setup, it has no
idea what drive letters have been assigned, so it assigns C: to its own Boot
Volume - even if that's the 3rd partition on the second hard drive - and
then the System Partition (traditionally Drive C:) gets the letter D:. If
we want to control letter assignments for the System and Boot volumes, we
have to boot into an existing Windows, use Disk Management to assign the
letters, and then run Vista Setup from the existing Windows Desktop. This
is more difficult when adding a 64-bit OS to a 32-bit OS because there is no
migration path between 32-bit and 64-bit.)

I hope you can find some nuggets you can use among all this ore, Don. ;^}

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
(Retired. No longer licensed to practice public accounting.)
rc@grandecom.net
Microsoft Windows MVP
(Currently running Quicken 2008 Deluxe in Vista Ultimate x64 SP1)


> Hey gang,
>
> I run Quicken 2008 Deluxe, on XP Pro 32 bit.
> Last weekend, I installed Vista 64 bit Ultimate, on it's own hard drive,
> to dual boot with XP Pro. Mainly to just play around with Vista 64 bit,
> but finding I am liking it more and more. I am curious on couple of
> things.
>
> 1: Will Quicken 2008 run ok on Vista 64 bit? I have done some searching,
> it appears perhaps the main problem would be getting it to print, may have
> to print to pdf first. That is no biggie to me, as I don't do a lot of
> printing from within Quicken. I do download my financial data from my
> bank's website on a daily basis. Anyone running Quicken 2008 that is doing
> this, with no issue on Vista 64 bit?
>
> 2: Should I decide to install Quicken on my Vista 64 bit install, I would
> prefer to continue to run it on my XP Pro install as well, run in parallel
> so to speak for a while. I could see myself eventually migrating to Vista
> as my main OS, but want to give it time first.
> Right now, Vista is on it's own hard drive, when I boot into Vista it
> see's the Vista partition as drive C, and I have another partition on that
> drive for data as well. My XP Pro install is on another hard drive, and of
> course when I boot into XP Pro it sees it's partition as drive C, and the
> Vista partition on the other drive changes to like drive L.
> Could Quicken 2008, be successfully installed on Vista, and run in both
> Vista and XP in this scenario, or would I run into major conflicts?
>
> Thanks for any feedback here,
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Don


Posted by Don on February 29, 2008, 1:14 pm
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< snip >

>
> Fortunately for me, I had used E:QuickenW for years, ever since Quicken
> for Windows replaced the MS-DOS version. Even now, I've installed Q2008
> there twice, once from Vista x86 and again from Vista x64. Both Windows
> versions happily use the same copy of Quicken and I don't have to try to
> synchronize my Preferences between two copies. ;<) And I can still write
> checks from WinXP x86 in the morning and reconcile that bank account in
> Vista x64 in the afternoon. (Well, I could and did, until my WinXP
> stopped working.) So long as both WinXP x86 and Vista x64 can see that
> folder, it won't matter if WinXP calls it E:Quicken and Vista thinks it's
> L:Quicken.
>
> (On a side note, when we boot from the Vista DVD to run Setup, it has no
> idea what drive letters have been assigned, so it assigns C: to its own
> Boot Volume - even if that's the 3rd partition on the second hard drive -
> and then the System Partition (traditionally Drive C:) gets the letter D:.
> If we want to control letter assignments for the System and Boot volumes,
> we have to boot into an existing Windows, use Disk Management to assign
> the letters, and then run Vista Setup from the existing Windows Desktop.
> This is more difficult when adding a 64-bit OS to a 32-bit OS because
> there is no migration path between 32-bit and 64-bit.)
>
> I hope you can find some nuggets you can use among all this ore, Don. ;^}
>
> RC
> --

Most definitely!

I plan in installing Q08 into it's own new folder on the same drive I have
Vista installed on, but hope to point it to my quicken data file on my XP
drive, and share the same data file between both
installations of Quicken, the existing one on my XP drive and the new
install I plan to do on my Vista drive, will see how it goes...

Many thanks R.C., for the great information!



--
Don


Posted by Bob Wang on February 29, 2008, 12:16 pm
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Don:

I'm running Q2008 H&B R6 on an HP d4995t Vista Ultimate 64-bit desktop, and
a ThinkPad T61p Vista Ultimate 32-bit laptop. Both at 1920 x 1200
resolution. Just got my X61s that I'll be setting up this weekend, 32-bit
Ultimate 1600 x 1200 native.

That said, what I like about Vista Ultimate 64-bit:

1) 8 GB PC2 6400 makes everything run much faster than my 3 GB PC2 5300
laptop.
2) I can print multiple copies of Q2008 reports over the network. With XP, I
could only print 1 copy at a time. (Why do I need multiple copies? Ask my
accountant ;-))
3) Vista handles printing to my wireless HP 1320nw and wired Color LaserJet
2840 better than XP did.

What I don't like about Vista:
1) HP has not updated their printer management software for Vista, so I keep
an XP d4100y on the network to keep an eye on toner level, fax, scan
settings, etc.
2) Haven't yet figured out how to print color over the network using Vista,
but I haven't tried very hard.
3) Cannot scan over the network since HP does not have Vista scanner drivers
for the 2840, so I have to scan using the XP mule.
4) PrimoPDF cannot save how often to check for updates in Vista, so Primo on
the XP machine, cutePDF on the Vistas.
5) In theory Vista SP1 will speed up copying large files by something like
20%, but on a gigabit wired network 1 sec vs 1.20 secs doesn't matter very
much to me ;-)

Bob
P.S. I second GSalisbury's plug for WindowsSecrets.com even though I don't
dual-boot.


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