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Quicken Deluxe - 2005 / 2008 son 12-22-2007
Posted by Hank Arnold (MVP) on January 3, 2008, 4:51 am
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 Han wrote:
>
>> Bob Brown wrote:
>>>> Q05 to Q08 would be a good jump, you'll notice some new features you
>>>> should like. You can also try a free 60 day trial download of any
>>>> of the Q08 versions, directly from Intuit.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I currently have Quicken Deluxe 2005. Am I going to lose
>>>>> price downloading capability in April 2008?
>>>>>
>>>>> Will I lose any capabilities going to Deluxe 2008?
>>>>> I don't remember if there was a "Premier 2005" version...
>>>>>
>>>>> TIA
>>> While you can try it for a while, any changes to you quciken files
>>> would be lost if you went back to 2005. not a really user friendlt
>>> way to do it an since you can't import,export data, you'd have to
>>> enter it all over again.
>>>
>>>
>> There isn't a database in the world that produces backward compatible
>> data......
>>
> That's a strange statement. AFAIK, MS has several programs in their
> Office suites that can save the data in older formats: Certainly Word
> and Excel can.

Word & Excel are not database programs. The only *database* program in
Office is Access. AFAIK, you can't "Save As" to an earlier version (at
least not in Access 2007).

My point was that a database in a new format can not be opened and
managed by an older version of the *database* program. You might be able
to get a *reader* (as in Access), but you won't be able to open it for
editing or reporting...

Even if you *can* "Save As" an older version, you will almost certainly
lose features and/or functionality.

--

Regards,
Hank Arnold
Microsoft MVP
Windows Server - Directory Services

Posted by Han on January 3, 2008, 8:46 am
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> Word & Excel are not database programs. The only *database* program in
> Office is Access. AFAIK, you can't "Save As" to an earlier version (at
> least not in Access 2007).
>
> My point was that a database in a new format can not be opened and
> managed by an older version of the *database* program. You might be
> able to get a *reader* (as in Access), but you won't be able to open
> it for editing or reporting...
>
> Even if you *can* "Save As" an older version, you will almost
> certainly lose features and/or functionality.
>

Yes, indeed, you're right. A save as an older version would likely
result in loss of features for Access as it does for Word and Excel.
This is logical, why else bring out new versions? Answer: to make the
previous version obsolete. MS tried it somewhere along the line with at
least Word, and the outcry was such that they brought out a converter,
which is now built into new versions (I don't know how far back
conversion goes these days). It is even worse with GUI changes. I took
one look at Office 2007. Can't deal with the changes in feel from 2003,
certainly if I have to deal with the fact that not everyone at work will
change over at the same time.

Quicken is still able to output csv files, no matter that it is somewhat
poorly formatted (IMHO). That means the underlying data is still more
or less in the same format. It SHOULD be possible to save the data as
an older version's format, certainly with mature products such as
Quicken, or even Access. I admit, I am no good wth Acces, in part
because I have not "grown up" with the program as I did with Excel, Word
and Reference Manager (scientific bibliography database manager). But I
do understand that the publishers want to sell more, somewhat newer
programs, not just fix bugs in old ones.

As a corrollary, Word at least through 2003, has some very long-standing
problems with figures embedded in text. They don't stay in place when
editing text. Their borders need to be individually adjusted since you
can't change their default properties. A MS MVP acknowledged the
problem, and stated that she knew no solution would be forthcoming. Too
bad. A new Gui is more important.

Thanks for letting me blow off steam.

--
Best regards
Han
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Posted by Hank Arnold (MVP) on January 4, 2008, 4:12 am
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Han wrote:

> Thanks for letting me blow off steam.
>

Any time... ;-)

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Regards,
Hank Arnold
Microsoft MVP
Windows Server - Directory Services

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