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Quicken - Interest & Schedule B P.Schuman 02-06-2008
Posted by Laura on February 7, 2008, 8:54 am
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>
>>
>> > gk wrote:
>> >> To benefit from Quicken, the most important and useful thing is to
>> >> categorize transactions properly and in a meaningful matter.
>> >> The burden of doing it is completely on the user.
>> >
>> > let's see - downloaded transactions from a bank that were described as
>> > "Interest",
>> > and yet when they are used between Quicken & TurboTax,
>> > they no longer are "Interest" without my manually categorizing them
>> > ???
>>
>> Well, let's see: when it's "interest" on my personal acct, it goes to
>> sked B. When it's interest on a business acct, it goes to Sked C,E, or F
>> depending on the business, assuming I'm not a c corp or a partnership.
>> Or, it could be tax emempt, at the state or federal level. Other than
>> that, I guess it's just nuts.
>>
>
> Are your transactions getting a Category from your financial institution ?

Not always. It all depends on how you set up your preferences and Memorized
Payee list. For example I have all checks automatically mapped into "Misc
expense" instead of leaving the category blank. I have a report saved to
report Uncategorized and Misc Expense categories so that I can go online and
view the checks to see what they are for. The banks don't scan the checks so
the Payee comes through as Check ####.

Most of my transactions are repeats and Q relies on the "memorized payee"
information to populate the category. I still have to confirm that the
category assigned is appropriate for that particular transaction or manually
change it to an appropriate category based on that particular transaction.
As I posted earlier, the program nor my bank can detect which Staples
purchases are for personal vs business use. Why would you expect the bank to
know that info???

> My downloads from Chase only have the "Interest Payment" text,
> with no Category..... which appears to be the trigger/used field for the
> totaling vs the other way around.

Chase passes the text to Q that you will see on the paper statement. That
will go into the Payee field. It is up to the user to populate the Category
field. Once you have mapped "interest payment" as a payee to "Interest
Expense" as a category it will remember it the next time it is passed by
Chase to your program.

If your transactions are always coming through as uncategorized, check your
preferences. In particular check the QuickFill settings.


Posted by P.Schuman on February 7, 2008, 5:12 pm
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Laura wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>> gk wrote:
>>>>> To benefit from Quicken, the most important and useful thing is to
>>>>> categorize transactions properly and in a meaningful matter.
>>>>> The burden of doing it is completely on the user.
>>>>
>>>> let's see - downloaded transactions from a bank that were
>>>> described as "Interest",
>>>> and yet when they are used between Quicken & TurboTax,
>>>> they no longer are "Interest" without my manually categorizing them
>>>> ???
>>>
>>> Well, let's see: when it's "interest" on my personal acct, it goes
>>> to sked B. When it's interest on a business acct, it goes to Sked
>>> C,E, or F depending on the business, assuming I'm not a c corp or a
>>> partnership. Or, it could be tax emempt, at the state or federal
>>> level. Other than that, I guess it's just nuts.
>>>
>>
>> Are your transactions getting a Category from your financial
>> institution ?
>
> Not always. It all depends on how you set up your preferences and
> Memorized Payee list. For example I have all checks automatically
> mapped into "Misc expense" instead of leaving the category blank. I
> have a report saved to report Uncategorized and Misc Expense
> categories so that I can go online and view the checks to see what
> they are for. The banks don't scan the checks so the Payee comes
> through as Check ####.
> Most of my transactions are repeats and Q relies on the "memorized
> payee" information to populate the category. I still have to confirm
> that the category assigned is appropriate for that particular
> transaction or manually change it to an appropriate category based on
> that particular transaction. As I posted earlier, the program nor my
> bank can detect which Staples purchases are for personal vs business
> use. Why would you expect the bank to know that info???
>
>> My downloads from Chase only have the "Interest Payment" text,
>> with no Category..... which appears to be the trigger/used field for
>> the totaling vs the other way around.
>
> Chase passes the text to Q that you will see on the paper statement.
> That will go into the Payee field. It is up to the user to populate
> the Category field. Once you have mapped "interest payment" as a
> payee to "Interest Expense" as a category it will remember it the
> next time it is passed by Chase to your program.
>
> If your transactions are always coming through as uncategorized,
> check your preferences. In particular check the QuickFill settings.

just a note - I saw your comment about Quicken being a giant checkbook...
but - for ME - I only use it for the other side of the coin - Investments -

Therefore, I only see incoming data, from banks, brokerages, quotes, alerts,
news, etc...
Sure, there are outgoing checks... but we don't actually care about those,
we just use it as a financial stock, mutual fund, interest, and general
portfolio manager.
I thought that this incoming financial data would then properly flow into
the TurboTax buckets.




Posted by Laura on February 7, 2008, 7:45 pm
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> Laura wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> gk wrote:
>>>>>> To benefit from Quicken, the most important and useful thing is to
>>>>>> categorize transactions properly and in a meaningful matter.
>>>>>> The burden of doing it is completely on the user.
>>>>>
>>>>> let's see - downloaded transactions from a bank that were
>>>>> described as "Interest",
>>>>> and yet when they are used between Quicken & TurboTax,
>>>>> they no longer are "Interest" without my manually categorizing them
>>>>> ???
>>>>
>>>> Well, let's see: when it's "interest" on my personal acct, it goes
>>>> to sked B. When it's interest on a business acct, it goes to Sked
>>>> C,E, or F depending on the business, assuming I'm not a c corp or a
>>>> partnership. Or, it could be tax emempt, at the state or federal
>>>> level. Other than that, I guess it's just nuts.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Are your transactions getting a Category from your financial
>>> institution ?
>>
>> Not always. It all depends on how you set up your preferences and
>> Memorized Payee list. For example I have all checks automatically
>> mapped into "Misc expense" instead of leaving the category blank. I
>> have a report saved to report Uncategorized and Misc Expense
>> categories so that I can go online and view the checks to see what
>> they are for. The banks don't scan the checks so the Payee comes
>> through as Check ####.
>> Most of my transactions are repeats and Q relies on the "memorized
>> payee" information to populate the category. I still have to confirm
>> that the category assigned is appropriate for that particular
>> transaction or manually change it to an appropriate category based on
>> that particular transaction. As I posted earlier, the program nor my
>> bank can detect which Staples purchases are for personal vs business
>> use. Why would you expect the bank to know that info???
>>
>>> My downloads from Chase only have the "Interest Payment" text,
>>> with no Category..... which appears to be the trigger/used field for
>>> the totaling vs the other way around.
>>
>> Chase passes the text to Q that you will see on the paper statement.
>> That will go into the Payee field. It is up to the user to populate
>> the Category field. Once you have mapped "interest payment" as a
>> payee to "Interest Expense" as a category it will remember it the
>> next time it is passed by Chase to your program.
>>
>> If your transactions are always coming through as uncategorized,
>> check your preferences. In particular check the QuickFill settings.
>
> just a note - I saw your comment about Quicken being a giant checkbook...
> but - for ME - I only use it for the other side of the coin -
> Investments -

I use it for bank accounts, credit cards, investment accounts and accounts
receivables.

I think most people here don't use Q for only investment accounts based on
the nature of the questions asked. You may be the exception to the rule. It
probably would have been helpful if you had shared that piece of information
when you first posed your question.

> Therefore, I only see incoming data, from banks, brokerages, quotes,
> alerts, news, etc...
> Sure, there are outgoing checks... but we don't actually care about those,
> we just use it as a financial stock, mutual fund, interest, and general
> portfolio manager.
> I thought that this incoming financial data would then properly flow into
> the TurboTax buckets.

For investment accounts, the categories are pretty standard ones and should
get automatically populated. I have never had to adjust the categories
assigned to dividends or interest. I did notice that the tax lines were not
all populated so I had to update them.



Posted by Oilcan on February 7, 2008, 8:57 pm
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If you are more concerned about the Investments, I would look at software
designed for that specific purpose.

Oilcan
>> Laura wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> gk wrote:
>>>>>>> To benefit from Quicken, the most important and useful thing is to
>>>>>>> categorize transactions properly and in a meaningful matter.
>>>>>>> The burden of doing it is completely on the user.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> let's see - downloaded transactions from a bank that were
>>>>>> described as "Interest",
>>>>>> and yet when they are used between Quicken & TurboTax,
>>>>>> they no longer are "Interest" without my manually categorizing them
>>>>>> ???
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, let's see: when it's "interest" on my personal acct, it goes
>>>>> to sked B. When it's interest on a business acct, it goes to Sked
>>>>> C,E, or F depending on the business, assuming I'm not a c corp or a
>>>>> partnership. Or, it could be tax emempt, at the state or federal
>>>>> level. Other than that, I guess it's just nuts.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Are your transactions getting a Category from your financial
>>>> institution ?
>>>
>>> Not always. It all depends on how you set up your preferences and
>>> Memorized Payee list. For example I have all checks automatically
>>> mapped into "Misc expense" instead of leaving the category blank. I
>>> have a report saved to report Uncategorized and Misc Expense
>>> categories so that I can go online and view the checks to see what
>>> they are for. The banks don't scan the checks so the Payee comes
>>> through as Check ####.
>>> Most of my transactions are repeats and Q relies on the "memorized
>>> payee" information to populate the category. I still have to confirm
>>> that the category assigned is appropriate for that particular
>>> transaction or manually change it to an appropriate category based on
>>> that particular transaction. As I posted earlier, the program nor my
>>> bank can detect which Staples purchases are for personal vs business
>>> use. Why would you expect the bank to know that info???
>>>
>>>> My downloads from Chase only have the "Interest Payment" text,
>>>> with no Category..... which appears to be the trigger/used field for
>>>> the totaling vs the other way around.
>>>
>>> Chase passes the text to Q that you will see on the paper statement.
>>> That will go into the Payee field. It is up to the user to populate
>>> the Category field. Once you have mapped "interest payment" as a
>>> payee to "Interest Expense" as a category it will remember it the
>>> next time it is passed by Chase to your program.
>>>
>>> If your transactions are always coming through as uncategorized,
>>> check your preferences. In particular check the QuickFill settings.
>>
>> just a note - I saw your comment about Quicken being a giant checkbook...
>> but - for ME - I only use it for the other side of the coin -
>> Investments -
>
> I use it for bank accounts, credit cards, investment accounts and accounts
> receivables.
>
> I think most people here don't use Q for only investment accounts based on
> the nature of the questions asked. You may be the exception to the rule.
> It probably would have been helpful if you had shared that piece of
> information when you first posed your question.
>
>> Therefore, I only see incoming data, from banks, brokerages, quotes,
>> alerts, news, etc...
>> Sure, there are outgoing checks... but we don't actually care about
>> those,
>> we just use it as a financial stock, mutual fund, interest, and general
>> portfolio manager.
>> I thought that this incoming financial data would then properly flow into
>> the TurboTax buckets.
>
> For investment accounts, the categories are pretty standard ones and
> should get automatically populated. I have never had to adjust the
> categories assigned to dividends or interest. I did notice that the tax
> lines were not all populated so I had to update them.
>
>


Posted by Brian on February 7, 2008, 12:46 pm
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scott s. wrote:

> Well, let's see: when it's "interest" on my personal acct, it goes to
> sked B. When it's interest on a business acct, it goes to Sked C,E, or F
> depending on the business, assuming I'm not a c corp or a partnership.
> Or, it could be tax emempt, at the state or federal level. Other than
> that, I guess it's just nuts.

This is incorrect. Interest income for an individual taxpayer always
goes on Schedule B, never on C, E or F.

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