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Quicken Online Backup? Margaret 09-06-2007
Posted by Donald Sessler on September 11, 2007, 4:08 pm
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> Actually yes, especially having been a computer network security
> professional, I *never* thought I'd even consider putting my private
> financial data out there on someone else's servers. But as I no longer
> have an office to which I can securely ftp my backups, I need another
> solution. And burning DVDs to store in my safe deposit box isn't cutting
> it. That's one reason why I asked about Quicken's online storage, rather
> than some of the others mentioned. Free makes me a bit nervous, but it
> seems like Mozy gets some pretty respectable reviews. I've heard Xdrive is
> good, but when I saw it's owned by AOL, I wasn't quite so interested. I'm
> currently trying Carbonite and am about to try Mozy....
>
> Really when I think out it, businesses have been outsourcing IT (and thus
> backup) for years. It makes sense that a home market would evolve ... and
> that there will inevitably be some security breaches (um remember CD
> Universe and the credit card num leak of years ago?). I was pretty
> paranoid re backup, security and disaster recovery when I was working, and
> although what I run at home must seem like a fortress to many home users
> (should I bore with a description), I do need a simple way of safeguarding
> data that I simply can't afford to lose.
>
> Regards,
>
> Margaret
>
> Newsgroup Reader wrote:
>>> Is anyone using Quicken's Online Backup to back up files in addition to
>>> Quicken data? I'm contemplating such a service and am interested in
>>> comments from anyone who's using this service. It looks like you have
>>> to install a software backup client, which I'm loathe to do. But all
>>> these services seem to have this requirement.
>>>
>>> All comments much appreciated.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Margaret
>>
>> Any concerns/qualms about putting your info out on who knows whose
>> storage
>> drives? What happens if the storage keepers go belly up/get acquired?
>> Where
>> does their income stream originate from that they can afford gigs upon
>> gigs
>> for x number of users?
>>
>> Jay
>> (professionally paranoid)
>> .
>>
Margaret if it is just Quicken, why not a flash drive? In fact I bu my files
with a flash drive. I don't bother backing up programs I have copies of and
years ago thought about ghost etc but I really don't have anything in which
it might be cheaper to buy a new pc, copy my files to the pc as well as load
the few programs I have.
Then again I'm not into music, photos, graphics.
Don



Posted by Margaret on September 11, 2007, 7:07 pm
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 Donald Sessler wrote:

> Margaret if it is just Quicken, why not a flash drive? In fact I bu my files
> with a flash drive. I don't bother backing up programs I have copies of and
> years ago thought about ghost etc but I really don't have anything in which
> it might be cheaper to buy a new pc, copy my files to the pc as well as load
> the few programs I have.
> Then again I'm not into music, photos, graphics.

I do use a flash drive, too. But I just back up my Quicken files as
well as Thunderbird and Firefox profiles, plus my encrypted password
database. I'm not looking to back up *all* my data, but I do make
pretty heavy use of PaperPort, and in there, I have years of tax returns
& supporting data, as well as important legal and medical docs, too.
The minimum fits well within Mozy's free 2GB. I do have lots of photos,
and I've been slowly digitizing my CD collection. Also, much of the
software I purchase is shareware, some of which have key files, etc., so
I wouldn't want to lose those. But this latter data could easily be
burned to DVD and stored in my safe deposit box because it doesn't
change that frequently. I guess I'm just looking for an off-site extra
safeguard for critical data. Looks like Mozy will do the job for now.
And should my backups go over the 2GB limit, it's $4.95/mo, which won't
break my piggy bank. ;-)

Thx and Regards,

Margaret

Posted by Mark on September 12, 2007, 12:34 am
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You can currently buy very compact 80G hard drives that will fit in your
pocket for about $78 delivered. I currently use a 3 tier strategy for
backing up my critical data. For my Quicken data files I use Quicken on-line
backup. At $9.95 a year you can't really go wrong. I also have a 500GB
Maxtor NAS box that I have connected to my home network. I use the backup
software that came with that to run background routines once a day that back
up all my user data for both my home and work systems to the NAS drive.
Then, about once a quarter I use the USB port on the NAS drive to connect
one of my two 80GB Simpletech pocket drives and save my home PC data files
onto it and put it in my safe deposit box at my local bank. I bought two of
the drives so I just take the newly written drive with me to the bank, put
it in the safe deposit box, and bring the other one home, then repeat every
quarter or so. I get my safe deposit box free with my bank account so the
whole solution is fairly inexpensive in the long run. So just for my quicken
files I have 3 places, Quicken on-line backup, my NAS drive,and the drive in
my safe deposit box. For all the rest of my files (I have lots of pictures
and music), if my PC HD goes I have copies of everything on my NAS drive,
and if , God forbid, my house burns down, I have backups in my safe deposit
box. YMMV.

Mark

> Donald Sessler wrote:
>
>> Margaret if it is just Quicken, why not a flash drive? In fact I bu my
>> files with a flash drive. I don't bother backing up programs I have
>> copies of and years ago thought about ghost etc but I really don't have
>> anything in which it might be cheaper to buy a new pc, copy my files to
>> the pc as well as load the few programs I have.
>> Then again I'm not into music, photos, graphics.
>
> I do use a flash drive, too. But I just back up my Quicken files as well
> as Thunderbird and Firefox profiles, plus my encrypted password database.
> I'm not looking to back up *all* my data, but I do make pretty heavy use
> of PaperPort, and in there, I have years of tax returns & supporting data,
> as well as important legal and medical docs, too. The minimum fits well
> within Mozy's free 2GB. I do have lots of photos, and I've been slowly
> digitizing my CD collection. Also, much of the software I purchase is
> shareware, some of which have key files, etc., so I wouldn't want to lose
> those. But this latter data could easily be burned to DVD and stored in
> my safe deposit box because it doesn't change that frequently. I guess
> I'm just looking for an off-site extra safeguard for critical data. Looks
> like Mozy will do the job for now. And should my backups go over the 2GB
> limit, it's $4.95/mo, which won't break my piggy bank. ;-)
>
> Thx and Regards,
>
> Margaret



Posted by Tracy McKibben on September 11, 2007, 7:19 am
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>
>
> > Is anyone using Quicken's Online Backup to back up files in addition to
> > Quicken data? I'm contemplating such a service and am interested in
> > comments from anyone who's using this service. It looks like you have
> > to install a software backup client, which I'm loathe to do. But all
> > these services seem to have this requirement.
>
> > All comments much appreciated.
>
> > Regards,
>
> > Margaret
>
> Any concerns/qualms about putting your info out on who knows whose storage
> drives? What happens if the storage keepers go belly up/get acquired? Where
> does their income stream originate from that they can afford gigs upon gigs
> for x number of users?
>
> Jay
> (professionally paranoid)
> .

Some concerns, yes, but there are ways to alleviate them:

- anything that is truly confidential is password-protected/encrypted,
even sitting on my machine at home. If somebody were to physically
steal my computer, I'm not overly worried about them seeing something
they shouldn't.

- Mozy uses an encryption scheme that they claim even prevents THEM
from reading your data. Assuming that's true, I'm not overly
concerned about somebody getting access to my backups. The way they
do restores seems to add another layer of protection - you request the
file that you want restored, they prepare that file as a download and
then email you a confirmation, with a URL, that the file is ready.

- The online vendor of choice (currently Mozy) is not my primary
backup. I have a dedicated Linux box on my network at home that runs
BackupPC, monitoring every other machine on my network for changes.
When new/modified files are detected, they are backed up to that
central machine. The online backups serve as my "offsite" backup. If
Mozy goes belly-up, then I'll move on to the current flavor of the
month. There are a couple of published methods out there of using
Amazon's S3 storage offering to do offsite backups, I've considered
that option as well.


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