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Quicken file on network Andy 04-05-2008
Posted by Han on April 6, 2008, 9:53 am
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>> This is why I would be very hesitant to do what the OP proposes.
>> However, IF (and it is a big if) He can guarantee that only one
>> person will use his Quicken and Quicken data, and he will not
>> accidentally run QUicken on 2 machines at the same time on the same
>> data, then I do think it is possible to do what he wants. [snip]
>
> That's why I proposed a check in/out scheme to enforce only one user
> at a time. I wonder if there are easy to use tools for Windows
> already available for this type of usage?
>
> Scott
>
I would not trust Windows tools for this purpose, since it is my
financial data that are at stake. It is easy for me, since I am the only
one in the house who "does" our Quicken data. (Spouse does a non-
profit's on her machine, using an ancient version of Quicken).
Therefore, it's just I who has to remember which version of the data I
accessed from where. I keep daily backups on an external drive.
Occasionally I weed out excess file sets.


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Han
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Posted by Scott Lindner on April 6, 2008, 10:24 am
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> I would not trust Windows tools for this purpose, since it is my
> financial data that are at stake. It is easy for me, since I am the only
> one in the house who "does" our Quicken data. (Spouse does a non-
> profit's on her machine, using an ancient version of Quicken).
> Therefore, it's just I who has to remember which version of the data I
> accessed from where. I keep daily backups on an external drive.
> Occasionally I weed out excess file sets.

True. It's hard to trust Windows for much, but I think I was referring to
something entirely different than you may have inferred. I'm talking about
a CM tool for check in and check out. I do not believe any version of
windows has such a thing. The closest Microsoft product that has this
capability that I'm aware of is SharePoint and that's overkill for this
purpose. I was thinking of some sort of software development tool for check
in and check out, but there may be something more appropriate for this
intended use.

Scott



Posted by Han on April 6, 2008, 10:25 am
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> I'm talking about
> a CM tool for check in and check out.

Sorry, I don't know what you mean by CM tool, or check in and out.
<sad_smile>

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Han
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Posted by wedge on April 6, 2008, 11:21 am
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I have been using Quicken from client machines - 2 laptops and 2
desktops - accessing a single data file on a remote fileserver via a
mapped drive letter (Debian Linux running Samba) for over 3 years.
This system works excellent - I can access the file either wirelessly
or via wired network and the file is always up to date. Also, by
using VPN connection to my home network I can access the data file
from anywhere in the world. The real benefit of this system is the
ease of backing up all my files on the server per a rigorous backup
schedule and never having to worry about which computer I was using
when I did my last Quicken reconciliation, etc.

There is one quirk with a mapped network drive in Quicken 2008. When I
boot my computer and open Quicken, if I have not deliberately browsed
to the mapped drive yet, Quicken "forgets" that I have an existing/
default Qdata file and prompts me as if I am a new user at which point
I have to point Quicken to the location of the file. If however, I
browse to the network drive before opening Quicken, it remembers my
default file and opens it as usual. This did not happen in older
versions of Quicken (e.g. 2003, 2005). Anyone else notice this quirk?

BTW, my QDF file is now 23 MB and climbing dating back to 1998. I
never have reduced the size - anyone with some objective reason as to
the benefits of reducing the file size?


Posted by Han on April 6, 2008, 3:47 pm
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> Newsgroups: alt.comp.software.financial.quicken
> Subject: Re: Quicken file on network
>
> Han wrote:
>>> I'm talking about a CM tool for check in and check out.
>> Sorry, I don't know what you mean by CM tool, or check in and out.
>> <sad_smile>
> CM = Configuration Management. The term is often applied to software
> and software development (managing the configuration of your software
> and build system so as to be able to build your application). It's my
> bread and butter day gig. One of the most basic principals is the
> ability to "check out" and subsequently "check in" a file or artifact
> that the CM system is revision controlling. When you check out
> something you are telling the CM system that you are reserving this
> revision of this file because you intend to make changes to it. "If
> anybody else wishes to make changes too then stop them because I'm
> making changes". Think of it like checking out a book from the
> library. You take the book and the library makes a record that you
> have that book "checked out" of the library. Similarly checking
> something in, returning the book to the library, is the reverse
> process.
>
> WRT Quicken here a "check out" would be the process of saying "Hey I
> want to use this Quicken database. Is anybody else using it?" and if
> not then you make some sort of record that you have this Quicken
> database checked out, reserved to you. If somebody else wishes to
> check out this Quicken database they will be blocked.
>
> And again the process of checking in is the reverse.
>
> In simple pseudo code, based on bash (I'll give you pointers but you
> have to do your own work) it might look simply like:
>
<script etc snipped>

Thanks Andrew, I get it. My Reference Manager database system probably
does something like that, because if I have a DB open, I can't even copy
its files to another drive. The program also writes a *.loc file to
disk, and deletes it when the program or DB is closed. Or is "locking"
a file something different?


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Han
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